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Old 19th October 2012   #1
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Going live with large keyboard rig ?

Hi all, I want to start gigging again, I haven't done so with the music I've been recording simply becasue I thought it was just too complicated to play live. It's all done in the computer, multi-tracked, up to as many as 40 tracks. It would be great to do this live in a way that would be "fairly" compact and as versatile as possible from a live mixing point of view, and I don't want the computer to be involved in the actual process of "performing" too much, it's just not interesting coming to a gig to watch someone fiddling about with a lap-top. The music moves through a lot of different textures, and forms, so I need a large selection of hardware to realize it live without the computer. The rig will consist of 5 keyboards, four DJ Cd players, two DAB radio's, two Kaoss Pads and a lap-top. My plan is to buy a small mixer so that I have live hardware control of all sources, I would like a mixer that has a bit of automation, for mutes, and maybe automating effect sends so I can be free to play and manipulate other things. I wish there was some way of centralizing all of this ? something that was a massive synth sound source, and a mixing system, but I can't think of anything that would give me this degree of flexibility and control in one box and also, all the sounds that I like to use, but this would be defeating the object of this whole exercise really ! I would appreciate any thoughts about this, especially regarding small-ish automated mixers for live use?

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Thank's for the reccomendation, but not at £11,895 GBP ! ! !

Maybve something just a touch cheaper ! ! !

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ask your Digico Dealer.. that price is for the full package with external rack etc.. way overkill..

SD11 basic version without D-rack (local I/O could be sufficient ?) should be possible at around 6000£exVAT

and nope, nothing cheaper with your demands..
unless you go for the Behringer X32..
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ask your Digico Dealer.. that price is for the full package with external rack etc.. way overkill..

SD11 basic version without D-rack (local I/O could be sufficient ?) should be possible at around 6000£exVAT

and nope, nothing cheaper with your demands..
unless you go for the Behringer X32..
I'm really surprised, I didn't realize automation came at such a price on small mixers. Oh well, I'll have to see, depends on how much money I can allocate to this. I definitely don't fancy the Behringer, I'm not a snob, but honestly, Behringer mixers have to be heard to be believed, they are awful, especially the current ones, some of the Behringer stuff is OK, but not the mixers, digital or otherwise.

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Just get a nice digital mixer. For example Yamaha 01 promix, 01V, anything like that will do. Make snapshots and just press a button on the mixer to go to the next snapshot and have everything setup.

Im using mainstage with a motu 828 and emagic unitor 8. It mixes the audio signals, gives effects processing and also does the midi traffic/patching.
Way better then my old system which was multiple effect units, a samson rack mixer (with no automation) and opcode studio 5 lx midi patcher (which needs a pre-historic mac to program).
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