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Old 2nd July 2006   #1
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Question High-end Headphones for Tracking ?

Hellow dudes & dudetts of corse ...
Im saving some money to buy a pair of GOOD studio monitors, but meanwhile i need a nice pair of headphones to do some tracking ... I can´t have any bleed so its gotta be closed, or IEM kind ...

What cans do you suggest ? I´ve been looking into .. Ultrasone HFI-700, Beyerdynamic DT 770 ( but those are too bassy i think) and Ultrasone Closed PROline 650 ... I would appreciate comments on those cans ... and suggestions for any other models ...

And .. btw ... are those IEMs good for tracking ? Do they present a good amount of detail, and nice response ? ... Shure E4c ? Etymotic ER4S ? ...

Im also looking for great audio quality not just noise canceling ...
(I mean nice quality ... close to open-backs)

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Uhmmm ...

Hehe ... well since i saw those IEM i´m kinda of in love with them ... But ... do you i should get a pair of Sens 650 for monitoring, mixing, mastering ? ... so i would have the IEMS for recording and Sens for the rest ?


Owh ... i haven´t decided yet ... i´ll wait for other opnions ... Anyone else ?

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Ultraphones. No more click bleed! Sony components in a 'flagman on the tarmac' type enclosure. Google to find the site. They work great for tracking drums, bass, anything.

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Or these
http://www.trewaudio.com/catalog/items/item9.htm
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The problem is that i will buy these at Guitar Center ... the only store im avaliable to go ... (not even internet sikiping) ...

So any other thoughts ?
What about standard high end tracking phones ? (closed backs)
Any models that come to mind ?
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Then why did you ask us? Just go to Guitar Center, ask the Full Sail grad that works there what to get. I'm sure it'll be great.

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Grado RS-1. They need about a MONTH to break in and you need a reference headphone amp (like a Grace, or the one built into a QUALITY monitor controller headphone, like the CraneSong) but MAN they are accurate and easy to work on.

High end? Yes. Expensive? Yes, compared to Ultrasone, Sony, AKG, Beyer.
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I use AKG 171s for my tracking.

They seal very well and sound very good. They're slightly hyped in the hi-end but that helps them cut thru

The cord is detachable at the phone... very nice feature

I have the following and prefer the 171s

Sony 7506
Sony 7505
Extreme Isolation (Isolates well but sound quality leaves a bit to be desired)
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He, just read your posts ... going to take a look at the rs-1 on the web right now ...

Btw ... I have and K171 ! lOL ... i find it a little dull, with a hole in the high-mids, 1st can !
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Anyone using Ultrasones?
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FWIW, tracking here with AKG K271s and Beyerdynamic DT770. No complaints.

We also have Sony MDR7506 and Beyerdynamic DT100 and a few others, but the 271s and 770s are 1st choice.
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Btw ... I have and K171 ! lOL ... i find it a little dull, with a hole in the high-mids, 1st can !
hum... dull. I don't find that with mine.

I like the 271 also, but for tracking the 171 isolates better.

a bit off topic... I have a pair of AKG 701s. these phones are superb. if you're ever in the market for an open back check these.
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I've got one set of GK-Music Ultraphones and I also just got a deal on 5 sets of Beyer DT150's for £200 ($340) The Beyer Dt150's are good for the money, a lot more comfortable than the famous DT100's. The Ultraphones are really nice and unbelievable for not letting any bleed out. I've found them invaluable for finding the sweet spot on guitar amps too, highly recommended here.
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Anyone using Ultrasones?
um....yeah, as utility headphones or to listen to DVDs on my laptop. I don't think they are anywhere close to accurate and the subtle but unmistakeable high end smear is irritating to me. I know people who tossed their 7506's to use these...don't understand WHY!

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I heard today about Vic Firth headphones, if you can believe that, that are designed with drummers in mind ("Can you turn up the click some more?!"). Apparently, they are pretty good.

http://www.vicfirth.com/products/headphones.html
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Anyone using Ultrasones?
Absolutely!
I use mainly Proline 2500 (open) and Proline 750 (closed) - and HFI-650 if I need more headphones (it was the first Ultrasone I bought). Very satisfied with them - especially the two Proline models.
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I keep buying high (and low) end phones including the Prosones, various Sennheisers, Beyers, hoping to find the perfects phones, and none of them have replaced my lowly Audio Technica ATH-M40 headphones.

And I think you can get them at GC. They are cheap enough that everyone should have at least one pair. Try them!
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