Mic Placement Visualiser - Gearslutz.com Gearslutz.com
 


All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording

Mic Placement Visualiser
Topic: New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 18th August 2012   #1
Gear maniac
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 293

Thread Starter
Mic Placement Visualiser

Visualization of NOS stereo microphone system - Cardioid/Cardioid mic angle 90° spacing 30 cm - Equivalence Stereo - Array with two microphones stereo recording angle SRA time difference level difference mic orchestra angle Visualizator - sengpielaud

Just stumbled across this and thought i would share it. Apologies if its been shared before.

Im a bit confused though. I always thought, XY was positioning the capsules as close together as possible, to minimize any phasing from timing differences? I cant upload a picture right now, but basically i have always put the mic capsules one on top of the other, angled out between 45 and 90 degrees of centre line, depending on the setup and room?

Bearing mind I'm a humble live (paid) and studio engineer (less often paid), and have had no formal training in recording live shows, but i normally get good reports from artists that i record live.

And also, aren't a lot of those mic placements basically the same thing with slight variations on angle and spacing? i know that small changes in mic placement often mean big differences in sound, but do they really all need different names?

Last edited by stuartb; 18th August 2012 at 09:39 AM.. Reason: Additional thoughts
stuartb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18th August 2012   #2
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Stroud,Glos,UK
Posts: 1,616

Pity no MS in that very effective display.
Rolo 46 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 18th August 2012   #3
Lives for gear
 
MichaelPatrick's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 2,553

The link you provided is NOS, a stereo mic positioning standard developed by Holland Radio (Nederlandse Omroep Stichting).

sengpielaudio's visualizer also displays other positions including XY:

Visualization of Microphone System XY cardioid 90° Intensity stereo - Stereo recording angle SRA time difference level difference orchestra angle degrees visualisator MS - sengpielaudio Sengpiel Berlin

When you are on the site note that angle and distance parameters are adjustable.
MichaelPatrick is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2012   #4
Gear maniac
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 293

Thread Starter
Yes i understand that there are various mic techniques shown on that website, but one part of my question was me not really understanding the subtle differences that varying the angle and spacing of the mics, and why they are considered a separate micing technique, as opposed to variations on one technique.

The other part of my question was enquiring about the setup of XY mic config. from that website, it appears that in XY the butts of the mics are closest together, whereas i had always assumed that the capsules of the mics would be closest together?

maybe im not reading it correctly though?
stuartb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2012   #5
Gear addict
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 479

Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartb View Post
Yes i understand that there are various mic techniques shown on that website, but one part of my question was me not really understanding the subtle differences that varying the angle and spacing of the mics, and why they are considered a separate micing technique, as opposed to variations on one technique.

The other part of my question was enquiring about the setup of XY mic config. from that website, it appears that in XY the butts of the mics are closest together, whereas i had always assumed that the capsules of the mics would be closest together?

maybe im not reading it correctly though?
I believe that those two short "sticks" do not represent the lengths of the mics. They're there to make specifying the angle easier. So the "butts" in the picture are actually the capsules.
polytope is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2012   #6
Gear maniac
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 293

Thread Starter
Quote:
Originally Posted by polytope View Post
I believe that those two short "sticks" do not represent the lengths of the mics. They're there to make specifying the angle easier. So the "butts" in the picture are actually the capsules.
ok that makes sense, and it means that my idea of an XY config is correct, Phew.
stuartb is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2012   #7
Lives for gear
 
Matti's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,963

But I´ll remind you these don't advice you straight to the mics placements, rather show some of the qualities of different set ups forgetting other issues than polar patterns at a frequency - likely 1 KHz here ,but the polar patterns change versus freg.
But not the placement contra the object adviced here, how to say...

Matti
Matti is offline  
Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
TOOL: weird mic placement in live seth666 Live Sound 21 7th February 2013 06:25 AM
Mic placement for christmas recording, need help fast jakromm Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 9 19th December 2006 04:01 PM
ORTF drum mic placement mindbend Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 2 30th September 2006 02:05 AM
Leslie mic placement Dave Martin Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 12 7th September 2004 09:07 AM
Piano mic placement? Killahurts Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 10 17th January 2003 08:10 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:35 AM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use / Privacy Policy - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies.

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.