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31st May 2006, 02:52 PM
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|  TOOL: weird mic placement in live Hi, I went yesterday to a TOOL gig and i noticed that the guitars and bass where miced with condenser mic. The capsule of the microphones where not facing the cabinets. They were placed like a SM57 ! U understand? Instead of being placed vertically (as usually with a condenser mic), they was placed horizontally. It's the first time i've seen that. What this placement helps to achieve ? Someone knows which are theses mics ? They look like very close to Shure KSM mic or to AKG C 4000 B mic. Thanks |
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31st May 2006, 03:44 PM
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| Gear maniac  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas
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  | The pics I saw show Tool using the Heil PR30 on guitars. It's endfire, not side address. I haven't seen the bass rig. They use PR40 in the bass drum.
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31st May 2006, 03:45 PM
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| Doesn't Tool trigger their guitars live? |
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31st May 2006, 03:51 PM
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| Gear nut  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Capelle aan den IJssel, Netherlands
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| maybe senn md421 looksa like a side adress, but is not Remco |
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31st May 2006, 03:55 PM
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huh?? never heard of being able to trigger guitars before. Do you mean midi? Jason
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31st May 2006, 03:56 PM
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1st June 2006, 02:33 AM
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Yeah, and they use auto-quantize on the drums...  | |
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1st June 2006, 03:51 AM
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| auto quantizing drums and triggering guitars lol |
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1st June 2006, 06:08 AM
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| Someone mentioned it earlier, but is this the microphone you saw? If so, it's an end-address dynamic microphone even though it looks like a side-address condenser. It looks like they're mainly targeting the broadcast market with them but I've used on on guitar amp and kick before and was very impressed with both applications. -Duardo |
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1st June 2006, 03:40 PM
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| Or this (PR30): 
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2nd June 2006, 02:35 PM
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| Yes that's a Heil ! I recognize the mic on the pics of the website. I don't know it was PR 30 or PR 40. The only thing I know is that in front of the guitar cab there's a Heil, in front of the bass there's a Heil and in the kick drum there's an Heil too !! There's also a Heil near the talkbox of Adam Jones. Did they recorded 10000 Days with the same mics ? Someone as pics of the recording ? |
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2nd June 2006, 03:32 PM
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| Yes, they used Heil mics to record. Not exclusively, of course. PR30s were used on the guitars. among other mics. Sorry, no pics.
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2nd June 2006, 03:42 PM
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| Here's the RE-20 and the PR-40 in a voice comparison, radio DJ. http://www.wz5q.net/mp3/pr40/pr40re20rack.mp3
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2nd June 2006, 06:11 PM
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| I WORK for Heil.......and I can tell you one thing. The Heil I work for makes garbage trucks...not the mics that my favorite band uses.  Damnit! |
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2nd June 2006, 06:43 PM
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| Those PR-40 and PR-30 have a pretty good price I might have to pick one up Quote:
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