Using Pyramix this weekend...any suggestions??

[T.RayBullard]

I have to rent Pyramix for an Orchestral Session on Sunday, along with a StageTex "True Match" mic pre/ADC box http://www.stagetec.com/stagetec/truematch.htm

I use Sequoia but my interface went out on me(lynx aes16), so I have to use what is available.
Cant hurt to learn multiple systems I guess.


So you pyramix folks...any suggestions for me in terms of shortcuts, dos and donts??

Also...the PMX format , how do I convert to BWF that Sequoia can use??I plan on dtragging and dropping from the lunchbox pc system that I rented to my DAW.

Thanks folks!

teddy

[Legacy]

Hi Teddy,

Is it a Mykerinos system or Native? Which version of software? Pyramix is very straightforward for simple tracking. We use it all the time for location recording.

There are shortcuts for record, play and stop assigned to the numeric keypad which are '.' for record and '0' for play / stop.

You can turn on / off auto-increment of clip take and prompt for clip name after record stop in the General settings page as you like.

There is an icon for input monitoring in the track info panel to the left of the waveform. Clicking it will toggle between live input only 'O', auto-switching between input for record and disc for playback, or disc playback only.

There are project recording templates that you can start from - File: New From Template: Recording folder

I recommend recording in PMF file format and converting later. You can convert in the Media Management tab - File - Quick Export. It will prompt for location and file format as well as "one file per track" options etc.

On Myk. based systems the signal flow is Input->Harddisc->PMX mixer / effects so any mixer moves / effects are never printed to media.


As with any PC system, right-clicking everywhere opens up a world of configuration options.

E-mail anytime if you have questions.

Best,
Silas
www.legacysound.net

[T.RayBullard]

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it is native, version 5.0

[Roland]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

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it is native, version 5.0

Make sure that you specify the clock correctly. Try and get whomever you are hiring from to give you a thorough (as time permits) demo, for your application. I would also possibly ask them to set up a project ready for your session. All then you would need to do is plug everything in and press record. As mentioned before PMX format has some advantages in the way it efficiently address the hardrive particularly if you are using a laptop. Afterwards as mentioned above I would export the files as wav's or bwav's set to one file per track (personally I turn off the unique identifiyer option in this situation.

Good luck!


Roland

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by Roland

Make sure that you specify the clock correctly. Try and get whomever you are hiring from to give you a thorough (as time permits) demo, for your application. I would also possibly ask them to set up a project ready for your session. All then you would need to do is plug everything in and press record. As mentioned before PMX format has some advantages in the way it efficiently address the hardrive particularly if you are using a laptop. Afterwards as mentioned above I would export the files as wav's or bwav's set to one file per track (personally I turn off the unique identifiyer option in this situation.

Good luck!


Roland

Thanks Roland. It didnt look that hard, but I wanted to make sure I was covered. The owner already clocked it for me, had to feed it a signal from the StageTec first.
Now, gotta figure out how to use the stagetec.
Teddy

[Roland]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

Thanks Roland. It didnt look that hard, but I wanted to make sure I was covered. The owner already clocked it for me, had to feed it a signal from the StageTec first.
Now, gotta figure out how to use the stagetec.
Teddy

Just out of curiosity what sort of price is the stagetec, I looked at it and it seemed like a good idea.

I've just ordered some custom remote mic amps from Crispin at Crookwood, these are going to be converted to Madi making for an elegant solution.

regards



Roland

[T.RayBullard]

oh, about 30-50,000.00

[Yannick]

I tested a full blown 24ch stagetec unit once. It was (after reduction) around 8K for the first 8 ch, 6K more for every 8ch added. (with AES outputs).

Do test it first and ---- install the remote software ----
If I remember correctly, you can only change the internal sampling rate by selecting ext clock and feeding it another sample rate. Could catch you by surprise on a live gig, when you want to change the samplerate (just imagine it sitting there at 48K) but finding out you can't.

I found the weight impressive. On a windy day you could see your 24ch of mic pre/ad fly away

Curious as to how you like the sound.

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Yannick

I tested a full blown 24ch stagetec unit once. It was (after reduction) around 8K for the first 8 ch, 6K more for every 8ch added. (with AES outputs).

Do test it first and ---- install the remote software ----
If I remember correctly, you can only change the internal sampling rate by selecting ext clock and feeding it another sample rate. Could catch you by surprise on a live gig, when you want to change the samplerate (just imagine it sitting there at 48K) but finding out you can't.

I found the weight impressive. On a windy day you could see your 24ch of mic pre/ad fly away

Curious as to how you like the sound.

Pity about the price, thats nearly 1,000 a channel. I suspect that the price is hiked due to their being few other options with the Madi interface. As I mentioned earlier I'm buying some very esoteric mic amps built by Crookwood and they are less than half that price.


regards to all


Roland

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by Roland

Pity about the price, thats nearly 1,000 a channel. I suspect that the price is hiked due to their being few other options with the Madi interface. As I mentioned earlier I'm buying some very esoteric mic amps built by Crookwood and they are less than half that price.


regards to all


Roland

Yes...I love DAV and Pendulum...but if I love these stagetec and If i love the crookwood I hope to check out soon..I will be very happy and upset at the same time. Expensive business!

[Yannick]

1000 / ch is not extreme, because it is mic pre AND high end ADC in one package.

We didn't go for it, because there is no flexibility to share the 24ch between two mobile setups (unles you buy a second mainframe and begin swapping cards).

And while the sound was great, there was something funny going on with dynamics and transients - especially on softer signals. And that was an objective measurement/comparison with other ADCs.

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Yannick

1000 / ch is not extreme, because it is mic pre AND high end ADC in one package.

We didn't go for it, because there is no flexibility to share the 24ch between two mobile setups (unles you buy a second mainframe and begin swapping cards).

And while the sound was great, there was something funny going on with dynamics and transients - especially on softer signals. And that was an objective measurement/comparison with other ADCs.

In this day and age, I think it is compared to what other charge. At this rate we are talking about a box costing 20K for 24 mic amps with an AD convertor. The convertors are pretty much proprietry these days, even esoteric convertor manufacturers are charging only about 300-400/channel and 8 mic amps in a box from a top end manufacturer are around the 300/channel. Built in a rack of 24 there should be some economy of scale passed onto the customer.

Regards to all


Roland

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by Roland

In this day and age, I think it is compared to what other charge. At this rate we are talking about a box costing 20K for 24 mic amps with an AD convertor. The convertors are pretty much proprietry these days, even esoteric convertor manufacturers are charging only about 300-400/channel and 8 mic amps in a box from a top end manufacturer are around the 300/channel. Built in a rack of 24 there should be some economy of scale passed onto the customer.

Regards to all


Roland

Ive seen much worse though,,in terms of being expensive. We will see how it sounds...