Originally Posted by beingofsound
Alright I went to the demo, and the Midas Pro2 is indeed sick. Really easy to move around on the board, and the Pop Groups feature is great. The 3 things I was not a fan of:
Their wireless feature is kind of sub-par in comparison to other digital consoles out there. You can only use an ipad or apple (midas OS operates on unix/linux) and you can not make fader movements via the ipad. No more mixing from your tablet! Granted, I don't enjoy mixing on a tablet. However, in certain settings where the console is not in front of the speakers or you have multiple arrays in the field, it is quite a nice feature.
Secondly, the recording feature is very limited. There's really only one option according to the midas rep. A Lynx PCIe card that intefaces with AES50 (Midas's protocol - bidirectional cat 5 or cat 6 cable). Here's a link: Recording: Lynx Studio Technology Introduces AES16e-50 With AES50 Interface At Winter NAMM ‘09 - Pro Sound Web
Lastly, as of now, Midas Pro2 does not support third party plugins. I think they have only a handful of efx onboard and are working on pairing up with TC Electronics (which would be bomb).
But I digress, the console is a beauty and sounds great. All top of the line Midas pres, with control over the analog mic pre and the digital trim. All digital consoles have their pros and cons. Apples and Oranges, what are you hungry for?
Just to clarify, as there is a lot of misinformation in this thread regarding the PRO2 and various options.
The iPad app gives you control of ALL faders on the console. It also allows control of monitor mixes (fader flip) and VCA's (and also MCA's). You can use multiple iPads connected to a single console and also lock the iPad so that it can only control one mix. You can also control GEQ's. The Mixtender iPad control was specifically designed for mixing monitors. We have a second App in development which will be a full remote control for the PRO Series consoles.
Recording is not that hard. The DN9650 allows interfacing with pretty much any protocol and because it is CM1 card based it is future proofed. The CM1 card format is limited to 64 channels bi-directionally and as MADI for instance doesn't easily support higher sample rates (as the channel count halves each time) this becomes more of an issue. The DN9696 is a high capacity & high channel count option and it is not as expensive as you may think. I recently dealt with a system that used 4 x DN9650's with MADI cards and a DN9696 as a recording system for a MADI based console brand. Because that system was still cheaper than a ProTools system of equivalent spec@96K. This is just a recent example.
Lastly, I think you are looking at the internal 'plug-ins' in the wrong way. Each input channel has 4 different compressors available and 4 different types of EQ. All outputs have 5 different compressors and EQ choices. In addition the Generation-II software update adds a significant number of new reverbs, dynamic EQ, delays, chorus etc. We have another effects rack upgrade on the way early next year which will add even more choice. And to clarify we are not in any discussions with TC Electronic at this time.
We have spend a huge amount of time, energy and money making sure the sound of these consoles is up to our very high standards. This includes all the compressors, gates, eq's and effects on the consoles. I honestly suggest you try mixing on the PRO2 before you draw conclusions about the need for external plug-ins. I think you'll be surprised how little you miss them.
Thanks for your time.