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| Lives for gear |
OK, I am not a great big Madonna fan, but what a spectacular show. Who did last year; Black Eyed Who? Great show, well done, spectacular visual effects. Even grumpy old me enjoyed it. Now, the the Giants can just win this damned game.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2008 Location: NashVegas
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But, my toes were tapping, and my wife and 80-something neighbor all had smiles on our faces. 'Twas a great show. But I still liked Bruce and Sir Paul and Prince and the Stones... better. Them were some musicians. HB
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It was great. Very easy to talk over.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2003 Location: OTTAWA
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Good ? really ?? To each his/her own .. so I'll add my humble opinion .. and it's only that. I thought it was a typical lip-sync disaster on every level .. the dancing was even silly ... bad songs .. goofy synth beats .. and wacky themes ! Now the visuals were Ok I guess .. So my question is , has the bar been lowered that far ? J. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas
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The drums were also pre-recorded. The live drummers were playing along but had pads on their drums
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| Gear addict Joined: Jul 2010
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surely there was lip synching involved. great show |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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Sorry to rain on anyone's parade but Madonna's show was boring. A few years back Prince did the show. Despite all of the sound problems, that was great performance! And to the best of my knowledge this was a LIVE performance. Prince - Live Superbowl 2007 - YouTube |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2008 Location: NashVegas
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I wouldn't pay to be in the bowl, much less go to a Madonna concert... and I got every bit of my money's worth tonight (worth the HD package on the Comcast box). I actually left the room last year. | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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A depressingly bad display of an old hack stumbling around awkwardly while lipsync'ing badly to songs that sucked when they were new three decades ago. While not as insulting as last years's debacle, it was an irrelevant and lazy production.
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| Lives for gear |
I thought the visuals were AMAZING. At least on my setup Madonna's voice was mixed too low at the start. Good review here Madonna at the Super Bowl: Pop music review - latimes.com FWIW and YMMV
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: new hampshire
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frankly I was impressed. great show...
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2009
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I always peek in here to see what the experts have to say about the *audio production quality details* of big, hyped live events. But I guess most are concerned with the MUCH more crucial theatrical displays and distractions (AKA 'visuals'), eh ? |
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| Gear realist |
I thought it was a fun show. Madonna "brought it" as much as any star half her age. The set looked great. It was nice to hear those classics. To the vehement naysayers, you're coming across as old farts. This kinda thing was engaging when I was a punk rocking 15 year old, but now I find there are better uses of my emotional energy than worrying about the artistic validity of pop stars. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Location: NYC
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Regardless of our feelings for the music / performers... MUCH respect to the organizers / crew who managed to turn a football field into a very high-tech performance space in what seemed like a few minutes... Only to then turn it back into a football field a few minutes after that... Pretty amazing transformation of the actual 'floor' into a large video projection surface. Very impressive technically / logistically!! -Silas
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| Gear maniac Joined: Sep 2005
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Yeah, I don't understand the fussing about lip-syncing and pre-recorded music at a half-time show. It's the Super Bowl, the halftime show is supposed to be a spectacle and for that I thought it was pretty brilliant. My personal preference is live music played live, my favorite 2011 concert was Wilco w/ Nick Lowe for example. But expecting an exceptional music performance at a halftime "show" makes about as much sense as expecting an acrobatic touchdown in the middle of a jazz concert. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Seattle
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It seemed like the usual halftime show to me. Which translates to 'bad'. I've always been confused by it. It usually seems like its either an act/show that 12 year old girls would go crazy for, or middle aged housewives reliving their days at the sorority.
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| Gear addict Joined: Dec 2008
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| I suspect that the vox were live and EVERYTHING else was played back. The reason I think the vox were live is that M seemed to get a little more out of breath as the routine went on. D.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2010
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I mean the single most entertaining thing of the whole performance for me, was the tightrope - because he was actually doing something... something that in front of millions of people he just might fail at. How sad that our superstar performers so rarely insist on demonstrating their ability to do the same. Of course, they'll have to fight the TV people to make it happen. Because for decades - the TV folks only rarely seem to get how much they'll be killing their "spectacle" by choosing to remove so much of the performance from it. I mean look at YouTube... years later, how many folks clamor to see the countless hours of TV's past lip sync performance clips compared to the actual live ones? Give me those old Sullivan clips over the American Bandstand ones any day of the week. :-) Same with the Superbowl shows - years from now, I might look up the Prince show to watch again... but last night's?? Why? David
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2010
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And what happen at 3:31??? Did she lip-sync wrong? Or if singing, was the mic not on? |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005
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I'll eat my hat if Madonna was actually singing.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2003 Location: OTTAWA
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And what about that lame new song !!!!! ... If my 12 yr old liked that new 'LUV madonna' tune .. I'd dis-own her. All my kids just laughed through much of this 'show'. And imagine being paid a $500,000 bucks and then give the finger to the crowd .. wow .. what low life's inhabit the music 'biz' these days )-: ps - Did anyone else notice all the parade drummers all had rubber pads in their drum heads ?? (so as not to interfere with the recorded drumming tracks) pss - I thought the country duo (Lambert & ??) did a decent job at pre-game. Just so you know I'm not "negative everything" (-; |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2003 Location: OTTAWA
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I was reading a newspaper article this morning - an 'associated press' piece - the writer goes on about how her 'singing' wasn't very strong .. and this piece went out nation wide I'd think !! What an embarrassment to the profession. You'd think journalists wouldn't be so easy to fool .. goes to show you how little you can trust 'journalists' these days )-: |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Seattle
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I do have to give props to the technical dept. as noted in one of the previous posts. It was a pretty amazing transformation. Too bad they don't hold the same kind of expectations for the artists.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2008
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It's just musical theatre, and imho a good example of that. Fun to listen to and watch. No need for it to be 'live' any more than a studio CD. Quote:
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2008 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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I think the beginning was lip-synched, but as her dancing slowed and she was doing more walking around on stage or stationary points, I think she went live. When Cee Lo Green was on stage with her, I think they were both live. Just my guess. Howie J
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| Gear addict | The greats of the genre are rolling in their respective graves. and Stephen Sondheim is rolling his eyes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWcwsczcm8 THAT is an F'ing Halftime SHOW. |
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| Gear Head Joined: May 2008 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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I don't watch the superbowl halftime show anymore for the musical content. Its all about the visuals and staging. The first thing I did was start looking for who manufactured the video stage tiles...
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA
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| Yeah, Prince The Who etc.. I think Bruce ( and I don't particularly like Bruce) did the best. I remember actually enjoying it and it seamed that the people in the stadium where having a great time being at a Bruce show ( rather than just half time entertainment ) and would have rather continued with the show rather than resuming with the super bowl. Madonna's on the list of unimpressed. (as if she cares.....ha ha) |
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