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| Gear Head Joined: Feb 2006
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Hello, I am manufacturing some snakes and stage-boxes with splitters for live sound and remote recording. I am about to invest a considerable amount of money on mass connectors, jensen transformers (In fact I hae already purchase 24 4 way splitters), and multichannel mogami cable and apon mulling it over I thought I would consider digital. The question is how reliable is it and what is the quality of the audio? Is there audible latency? The goal is to have a multipin system that would not be the weak link in a system consisting of class A api,neve,calrec,grace and hardy preamps and apogee converters (Yet to buy so if you have other suggestions it would also be appreciated. Apogee converters are expensive!). The snake would offer 4 splits on stage using mass (or other similar )connectors. The splits would go to the FOH board (or their snake), to a monitor board, two a second foh board (if it is being used) and finally my mic pres as much as 500' away. At an isolated spot I would have my Mic pres, compressors, convertors (thinking of splitting here two to feed two different recording systems for reliability) and then two the DAWs. Finally I may have a mixer to provide a rough mix at theend of the concert. Anybody have any ideas, comments, suggestions or advice. I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Mario |
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| Gear Guru Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun
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| I'm not sure what you are envisioning here. Is this for a FOH, monitor, and recording set up? When you talk about converters, are you thinking of putting them in a box and distributing the digital audio to various locations? Are you thinking about putting mic Preamps in the splitter box and sending out line level? ??? -tINY |
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| Gear Head Joined: Feb 2006
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia
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stick with analogue. you cant convert to digital before a mic pre and if you put mic pres on stage you wouldnt have any level control. you cant you afford to induce latency on the FOH feed.
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| Gear Head Joined: Feb 2006
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Thanks for the advice. That is what I was thinking. Regards, Mario |
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| Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2002 Location: NYC
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You said, ...No, I plan on sending the mic signal to the remote location. I think mic level is better for longer runs than line level. Mario, For longer runs, line level is always better than mic level.
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| Gear Guru Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun
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| Line level travels better. But, for stage work, you'd need remote controlled pres. -tINY |
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| Gear Head Joined: Feb 2006
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Do any of you know how to calculate how far I can send these mic levels in cables without signal degredation? Will long length render my invesment in these discrete preamps (with no automation) for this purpose a bad investment? IOW, will these signal degredation from a 250' cable nullify the warmth and character of a calrec pq1161 or and api 512? Let me know, Mario |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004 Location: southeast
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HF loss due to capacitance is a fact of life, but if you must go 250 ft mic level then buy the lowest capacitance AES snake you can afford. Rich |
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