questions for engeneer of sound in concert!

[Pilepoile]

Hello,

I woulk like to know what is the best combo for the amp guitar in concert (the band who have 1 guitarist):

1) 1 sm57 and in the mix guitar stay in the middle
2) 1 sm57 (and more mics) and use effect (delay) and pan the mic and the effect
3) 1 sm57 on the left and 1 e609 on the right
4) 1 sm57 on the left and 1 e609 on the right (use the dephasing pad)
5) 1 sm57 on the left and 1 sm 57 on the right
6) 1 sm57 on the left and 1 sm 57 on the right (use the dephasing pad)
7) 1 sm57 on the left and DI (before the amp) on the right
8) 1 sm57 on the left and use line out of the amp

Actually, I use the number 5...but I am not totaly happy, i have try 6 the sound is better but I don't know why!!!!

what do you thing about it?

thanks you!!!!

antonin


ps: excuse me for my little english!

[nathanvacha]

Uh...wow, man. That's awefully general. It seems a little too broad of a question. The size of stuff I do live, I really don't find myself doing a lot of panning. Stage stacks are spread so wide compared to how close the audience stands to the stage, so I can't really see panning something hard to one side because it may as well not be in the mix for somebody standing on the other side of the venue. Maybe that's just me...

I run everything straight up the center. '57 and 609 are both good options.

p.s. over there in France... you speak English better than I speak French.

[Tidewater]

Concerts sound terrible, just call it all in on isdn.


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[tINY]

If you have an e609, you may try that instead of your 57. Make sure to try different mic positions and angles.

I usually start by placing the element of the microphone a little off-center and aiming about at the edge of the dust cap.

Don't be afraid to use the EQ.



-tINY

[Remoteness]

I like MD409s on GTR cabs.
If they're not availible try the E906 instead of the E609.

[Pilepoile]

thanks for your answer, but when I record music I use a panoramic with guitar and in the middle of the mix there is:
drums, bass and voice

that's why in live situation I want the same situation! so the band play rock stoner as:
1 guitarist:
Kyuss
Cowboys and Aliens
Motorhead
Rage Against The Machine

2 guitarist:
Hermano
Queen of the stone age
Clutch
Fu Manchu
Down

thanks!

[aussie_techie]

so much depends on the cab(s) and the guitar sound.
but the 2 main ways i would consider
a single sm57 or a beta57 if you can get 1 center
if they have multiple cabs or a multi speaker cab, use 2 57s, one on each and pan them hard left and hard right. it can sound alot better alough you will be lucky if 1 or 2 people actually notice but if it sounds better to you then you have more fun mixing it. dont bother with a DI unless you need a cleaner sound, you will just run into phase problems.

i always mix in stereo but except for FX returns or multi micing a source i will never pan hard left or right due to stacks being so wide. you should always keep that in mind

[Pilepoile]

for information the amps is:
a fender twin reverb