Super Bowl - Black Eyed Peas!

[kennybro]

Originally Posted by Zep Dude

The problem is TV does not and never has cared about audio. It is an afterthought. The guy who ends up at the mixing board is the union guy with the most seniority in a lot of cases.

Ha!
Director: "How's the audio?"
Audio guy: Looks down and sees meters moving. "Great."

Truly a sad show this evening.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

I will be honest, this performance has made me question everything about the industry, and one part of me wants to quit just because of that performance. I even had a talk with my parents about this, that's how bad the performance was. If this is what the industry is about, I want no part of it.

I feel for you Chris, I gave up on the Industry in the 90s if not before. I enjoy making music and recording, I could care less where it goes when it leaves the control room, as far as me playing live, I just want to make myself happy, make sure I played a great show, I sure would hate to have a large crowd and I was off any given nite, to me that's worse.

[Ernest Buckley]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

I will be honest, this performance has made me question everything about the industry, and one part of me wants to quit just because of that performance. I even had a talk with my parents about this, that's how bad the performance was. If this is what the industry is about, I want no part of it.

This performance made you question the industry? Where have you been the last 10 years?

[jmikeperkins]

I NEVER thought in a million years that I would feel sorry for Slash. I guess it was kind of nice that the crappy auto tune "vocals" were live, but what a bunch of garbage! Maybe the sound guy knew it was going to be so bad he just didn't care, and as soon as he remembered to turn Fergie's mic on, left and got drunk or took a bathroom beak returning when the whole thing was over to turn Fergie's mic off again.

[PRobb]

Originally Posted by Happy Musicfan

Where are the melodies, the musicianship, the complexity, the imagination, the *skill*...... has it really all been flushed down the toilet for rhythmic loops, stage moves, media hype, attitude, posing and auto-tuned garbling ? Yes. You see, when the bar is lowered so far, to selling the current generation their daily dose of fast-food sonic-garbage, then the more advanced aspects of musicality are no longer required and need not be retained or refined. It's not progress. It's primal stupidity.

Couldn't have said it better.
Look at the last few Super Bowls- The Stones, The Who, Prince, Springsteen, Paul. All acts decades past their hit making primes.

Can anybody imagine anyone wanting to hear the Black Eyed Peas in twenty or thirty or forty years?

It's the difference between great art and disposable crap.

[edvdr76]

Definitely sucked! Vocals were louder than the music!

[Binky Bass]

Originally Posted by PRobb

Can anybody imagine anyone wanting to hear the Black Eyed Peas in twenty or thirty or forty years?

.

or next year......they are done like dinner.
Will I am will be fine....Fergie can always show herself in playboy....I dont know the other dudes.

[FFTT]

I kinda figured I wasn't missing much.
Didn't care about the game one bit anyway,
but would have liked a good half time event.

Apparently, I didn't miss much.

I was invited to a great Super Bowl party, but honored my
responsibility to get my taxes and my daughter's FAFSA
done this weekend. DONE!

[uncle duncan]

I see a Saturday Night Live parody in the offing. Coincidentally, Kristen Wiig was doing a great Fergie impression last night on SNL, in the persona of a retired disco queen weather person during Weekend Update.

Saturday Night Live - Weekend Update: Angela Dixon - Video - NBC.com

[chessparov]

Hey Chris, for a bit 'o inspiration check out some Marvin Gaye videos at youtube ala Montreux '80 singing "Let's Get It On"-simply tremendous!

Ziggy Marley instead for the half-time, in honor of his dad's B-Day today, (along w/Ziggy's talent) would have been cool IMHO.

Chris

[richiepalooza]

the Black Eyed Peas reminded me of a bad, low budget cartoon. The worst halftime show ever, even worse than the Who. Embarrassing!

Christina Aguilera is so badass, tho.

[Raider]

My expectations were very low going in, and therefore fully met.
BEP's make me nostalgic for the '00's.
What a hip decade!

[MoreSound]

Just straight out bad Karaoke.

[djmukilteo]

It may be the industry but it's been like this for a long time now! So nothing new...it's an economic war out there for market share!
It's "newkidsontheblockbrittanyspearshannabiebergagadisneypopamalgamated musicsoundconsumerfoogoo"!
It's just product for consumers and it's what sells and makes $$$$.
You get em on TV and you set the hype in motion. Music videos, teen magazines whatever you can do to push it.
There was a time when people made records and they became statements of popular culture and there was no formula, just poets and musicians.
Then they figured out there was money to be made there. Formulas and bean counters and scientists get involved.
Today I think it's just a sad reflection of the consumer state the modern world has become.
And the really sad thing is ....there are talented people with something meaningful to say out there and they want to change the world with their music but their chances are becoming more and more pushed aside.
SuperBowl Sunday has become this iconic American patriotic market tool like NASCAR and maybe these artists actually know that....and that's why there's not much enthusiasm put into those performances....
You get what you pay for....but sometimes the free stuff is priceless!

[chessparov]

WHAT sound?

Chris

[Studio Addict]

One can only hope that this will be a defining moment in younger people seeing that the emperor has no clothes. Acts of this type are pure garbage and their influence is grossly inflated. Paul McCartney with an acoustic guitar could have walked all over these posers.

[jchadstopherhuez]

the whole thing was akin to a giant, live myspace comment.

sh$#%^ music that started and i could not turn it off....gaudy color scheme, flashy sequins (i assume slash was contractually obligated to wear that hat), horrible font choice (love ? right...i think those were hearts...) and i don't give a damn about what they were promoting.

oh yeah.

go pack !!

best,

jchristopherhughes
cheesehead

[emfrank72]

I couldn't wait to get home and check Gearslutz to see if I wasn't crazy. Worst sound ever. At least the Packers won.

[dysenterygary]

Ok, I'm apparently the only one who thinks this was the best super bowl halftime show I've ever seen. Maybe its because I expected it to suck so bad that I was pleasantly surprised? I don't know. But give me a break, at least it was entertaining. I was watching it w/my 50 something inlaws who had never heard of this crazy Black Eyed Peas band, and they were tapping their feet too it!

News flash: its ENTERTAINMENT! The people here at gearslutz forget how insignificant of a minority you/we are. The world NEEDS autotune, they NEED hundreds of people in moving colored outfits. They NEED Usher and Slash coming out of nowhere and doing their 90 second routines. I would watch this any day of the week over the butchered bastardization of The Who last year.

This is what people want now. Adapt or cling to the old days. Whatever makes you happy.

[Chris Lago]

Originally Posted by Happy Musicfan

Now is the time for you to put the pedal to the metal. Release some emotively intense, anti-establishment songs. Yes, the next album by Chris Lago : 'Speaking Truth To Power'.

Ha! Trust me I've been working on a second album, it's going to be great!

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Man, just the opposite. This just proves it's time for something better!

Yeah you're right.

Originally Posted by AllAboutTone

I feel for you Chris, I gave up on the Industry in the 90s if not before. I enjoy making music and recording, I could care less where it goes when it leaves the control room, as far as me playing live, I just want to make myself happy, make sure I played a great show, I sure would hate to have a large crowd and I was off any given nite, to me that's worse.

Maybe that's what I should do, make myself happy with my music.

Originally Posted by Ernest Buckley

This performance made you question the industry? Where have you been the last 10 years?

Feeding it, sadly.

Originally Posted by chessparov

Hey Chris, for a bit 'o inspiration check out some Marvin Gaye videos at youtube ala Montreux '80 singing "Let's Get It On"-simply tremendous!

Ziggy Marley instead for the half-time, in honor of his dad's B-Day today, (along w/Ziggy's talent) would have been cool IMHO.

Chris

It's funny that you mentioned this because I was listening to some Marvin Gaye today.

Anyway, moving on, don't want to make this thread about me. Oh and the Steelers lost, damnit I was rooting for them all year long.

[RKrizman]

Was it just a lack of aesthetic understanding that caused the mixer to keep the backing tracks so soft? You're not mixing Sinatra ferchrissake.

Up is louder.

-R

[Surf Street Rec.]

[djmukilteo]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

I will be honest, this performance has made me question everything about the industry, and one part of me wants to quit just because of that performance. I even had a talk with my parents about this, that's how bad the performance was. If this is what the industry is about, I want no part of it.

Seriously....no need to question, you're either in or out!
Taylor Swift is in, Justin Beaver is in, Lady Gaga is in...
It is what it is...I don't know if your being sarcastic or naive!
It's not about talent as much anymore, it's more about who you are...who your related to or who you know.
True music comes from the heart and mind and it isn't made up on a computer with automated tuners and sound samples.
That part is just a product of manufactured technology for the entertainment consumer market...the rest of the product is makeup, costume and set design...the young and sexy product formula always sells! That won't change....
So yeah don't fool yourself if that's the industry you want to be a part of

[RKrizman]

Originally Posted by dysenterygary

Ok, I'm apparently the only one who thinks this was the best super bowl halftime show I've ever seen. Maybe its because I expected it to suck so bad that I was pleasantly surprised?

I expected it to be great and was looking forward to it. I actually really like their recorded music--some of it is meaningful and some of it is just for fun, cool either way. Most of their stuff is really infectious and my 14 year old daughter and I like to crank it on the way to school. But I can't believe how unbelievably silly they looked in their superhero costumes or whatever it was, and as somebody pointed out, what should have been a very simple mix was a disastrophe. You know, it is possible for music to sound great on tv with not too much effort.



-R

[jchas]

Even the local news cast was talking about how poor the show was, and mentioning pretty much everything that's been said here. What I didn't realize - since I didn't listen to the whole thing - was that Christina muffed a line on the Anthem. I will give her credit for pulling it out of the fire - anyones that's ever had a mental fart and lost a lyric knows how long that 1-2 seconds feels while you're fighting to get back into the song. I can't imagine the feeling for it to happen in front of that many people...

But why all the vocal acrobatics? She had literally doubled the time needed to sing the song and tripled the amount of notes in it. She showed her experience by fighting through the lyrics issue - but the acrobatics made her sound like she was auditioning for Idol.

[15ips]

I long for the days when the super bowl had college bands as entertainment

[Shaft]

Okay. I'm here to man-up and take my lumps.

Five minutes before before showtime an intern and I snuck off to spark a fatty, and... well... all those knobs and lights got a little confusing.

[strings]

Originally Posted by Shaft

Okay. I'm here to man-up and take my lumps.

Five minutes before before showtime an intern and I snuck off to spark a fatty, and... well... all those knobs and lights got a little confusing.

thumbsup Reminds me of "the dude" from the big lebowski.

now back to trashing....

Any person who cares about music knows...Houston "we have a problem".
The industry has become like a slow motion car crash that just keeps looping.
It's a shame because as already mentioned, there's plenty of talent out there. It's almost like everything is upside down. I go to a club and get blown away by a jazz band that is scraping to get by and come home to see justin beiber or an unlimited number of untalented rap artist being put on a pedestal.

[mobius.media]

Originally Posted by kafka

No, that's not correct. There were lots of shiny objects, and some rap, and some rock, and an oldies hit, and some inspirational stuff. There was something for everyone. I think the committee that assembled the show did a fine job.

LOL!

Originally Posted by jchas

Even the local news cast was talking about how poor the show was, and mentioning pretty much everything that's been said here. What I didn't realize - since I didn't listen to the whole thing - was that Christina muffed a line on the Anthem. I will give her credit for pulling it out of the fire - anyones that's ever had a mental fart and lost a lyric knows how long that 1-2 seconds feels while you're fighting to get back into the song. I can't imagine the feeling for it to happen in front of that many people...

But why all the vocal acrobatics? She had literally doubled the time needed to sing the song and tripled the amount of notes in it. She showed her experience by fighting through the lyrics issue - but the acrobatics made her sound like she was auditioning for Idol.

From her Back to Basics album on she's gone way the edge from 'talented show off' to 'ridiculously over doing it'.

It's a shame because she really is quite good when she has a bit more restraint.

[Maccalennon]

Long live Indie Music!! manufactured garbage they call music black eyed peas, disgusts me oh what are we going to do with the children, having to listen to this.