Which board for my church!?

[Edward Shnapper]

Hey guys,

My church has asked me to look into getting a new board. They only have around $1500 US to spend. It's a new church, so there's not a lot of people attending and the building size is probably considered medium small.

I have one party questioning me about the O1V and another party questioning me about the Behringer PMP5000. How do you all feel about these boards? Can anybody suggest any other models?

I guess, for the church, the O1V could be desirable because its digital so its maybe a little more practical.

Any help would be appreciated..

[whereisbkp]

the presonus studiolive could fit the bill. its digital, and there's a bunch of videos on youtube about how to track/mix with it. i saw one on ebay for about $1500.
good luck.

[WVUtubadude]

The thing with most churches is that volunteers that have little to no idea what theyre doing usually run things. If that is the case with your church, I would stay away from digital or anything that has a considerable learning curve.

I would go with something from Allen & Heath, like the GL2400, Mix Wizard, or the Zed series.

If there is a dedicated person, then go ahead with the O1V or the StudioLive. I have seen both in use and thought they were both good. (Although I liked the PreSonus more)

[Edward Shnapper]

Cheers Guys. I wasn't aware of the presonus model. After looking into this product, it looks very promising!

You have a good point tubadude. Fortunately, for some strange reason, our church has more than enough people capable of doing the sound. In fact, the church worship band is nearly bigger than the congregation

[Gigazaga]

Originally Posted by whereisbkp

the presonus studiolive could fit the bill. its digital, and there's a bunch of videos on youtube about how to track/mix with it. i saw one on ebay for about $1500.
good luck.

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StudioLive is a great choice if the number inputs and budget fit. It would be much easier to use for live mixing than an O1V.

[hbphotoav]

Originally Posted by Gigazaga

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StudioLive is a great choice if the number inputs and budget fit. It would be much easier to use for live mixing than an O1V.

Ditto the StudioLive recommendation. I have one now (24.4.2) for personal and corporate work, and I wish it had been available five years ago when we went (at church) from my 20-year-old EV Entertainer 8-input powered mixer to our (still in use) A&H GL3800. But... if wishes were horses...

As to the learning curve... if the sound dudes and dudettes can mix on an analog console (understanding basic signal flow and "outboard" like comp/lim and EQ) the StudioLive is, in my experience, by far the easiest transition, thanks to the Fat Channel arrangement withing a fairly "analog"-looking desk. I've run Soundcraft and DM1000, and spent time with M7CL, PM5D and Avid SC48.

BTW, with the announcement of multiple iPad control, I'm toying with replacing the A&H MixWiz monitor desk we now use to control 10 ears mixes with a StudioLive 24.4.2 and a bunch of iPads to remotely control the 10 aux mixes from the stage (i.e, personal monitor mixes)... as well as using the tracking ability of the desk on a weekly basis for the band. All that, for a wad less than $10K... about the cost of a system of six or eight Aviom PMs or six Roland M48s.

And sooooo much cooler... and wireless!

HB

[GZsound]

You might want to think about how many channels you will need.

I recently helped a local church with their quest for a new mixer and they ended up with a 24 channel Yamaha that fits their needs now and in the future. With large bands, wireless mics, etc. channels get used up pretty fast. The mixer was within your budget.

[matthewd]

Ed

I noticed these new compact consoles coming from Soundcraft
Soundcraft - [Products]

Not seen heard or know pricing but they are pitched against the Yamaha LS9 I think. Maybe worth a look - there are different sizes
Soundcraft - [Products]

Otherwise, the presonus looks good. Allen and Heath would be another name I'd check.

Matt

[Adlen]

Allen&Heath analog consoles are great, but the "volunteers with no knowledge = don't use digital" goes two ways. On a digital console you can store and recall EQ, dynamics and level settings for 'near-enough' results.

We replaced our GL3300 with a Yamaha LS9 mainly for this reason

[CB_Photo]

A great feature of the StudioLive is the ability to record your bands. This is an excellent tool for band members' improvement.