Classical guitar recording solutions

[Audiop]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

Skål

Hahaa, not NOW.. I'm about to go for a drive! :-)

I'll have a small cup of Gluwein ("Glögg") when I get home though.. must be good for my flu.

Ever been to sweden?


/Peter

[lebouche]

I used a single KM84 on Monday. Fairly close..about 4 inches.
Didn't know it was widely used for that...just a hunch.
Loved it and so did the client.
I guess stereo would be mich nicer but only have one!

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by Audiop

Hahaa, not NOW.. I'm about to go for a drive! :-)

I'll have a small cup of Gluwein ("Glögg") when I get home though.. must be good for my flu.

Ever been to sweden?


/Peter

14 år i Stockholm....nu bara på sommarn, på brorsan's båt i skärgården....

[Audiop]

/Peter

[David Spearritt]

... but omni mics have a larger frequency range convered compared to cardioids. Thereby, those mics have a more natural sound.

The classical guitar does not radiate down far enough in low frequency to demand omnis. The lowest note on the guitar, say D2 two octaves below middle C is 73.4Hz, and most cardioids are still pretty flat around this frequency.

I find close-ish miking of guitar with omnis gives the same woofly boominess as miking harps with omnis. You get much more clarity and definition with pressure gradient microphones. I have found Blumlein (1-2m away) to be best of all for classical guitar.

[Gaston69]

What ever the theory might be, as promised here are sound samples

you will hear two recordings of classical guitar.

Pompilio Caputo Guitar which I recorded Live last May in Belgium in fairly dry church (was build out of limestone) and I used DPA 4006 with the Old Paintpot Crookwood into Korg MR-1000

DPA4060 Guitar Recording is a Live recording which I made in Paris last Friday with DPA 4060 and the "new paintpot Crookwood and again with the Korg MR-1000.

The mics were in an ONNO setup (38cm 90 degrees outward) approx 1 - 2 meters from the guitar and about 1.5m hight.

Up to you, let me know if you like the sound, by the way the noise you will hear are coming from the audience of from the street, both were recorded in a church.

To all Gearslutz, geen woorden maar daden!

[Gaston69]

David,

On my website there is song from Harry Versluys which I recorded with the DPA4060 which I sticked/glued on the guitar with the mounting kits supplied with the SMK4060 kit.

It does the job fairly well for a pop song is my opninion, again go and listen yourself

Gaston

[David Spearritt]

Originally Posted by Gaston69

David,

On my website there is song from Harry Versluys which I recorded with the DPA4060 which I sticked/glued on the guitar with the mounting kits supplied with the SMK4060 kit.

It does the job fairly well for a pop song is my opninion, again go and listen yourself

Gaston

Hi Gaston, yes it is a nice result, but it is a steel string, softly strummed and not a concert classical guitar which I think was what the thread is about. Close miking of guitar can sound nice until you hear it recorded further back with directional mics with reach.

I have made a small demo recording of a steel string miked at about 1-1.5m away with a pair of the best production (slightly directional) omnis in the world, the Neumann M150 tube.
Martin D35 through M150's

[Gaston69]

Yes, the Neumann M150 is everybody's dream. wished I had a pair.

I will listen later to your demo because I am in the office.

Gaston

[Oli_W]

I recorded a classical guitar album with a pair of KM184s and was fairly happy, although it needed some EQ :( I blame this on the 2khz resonances of the actual guitar though! I would've prefered omnis (schoeps MKH20??)but Km184s was all i could afford...

Nonetheless I have been complemented on the sound of the CD, although i thought it coulda been better.

Km184s make ok overheads, acoustic guitar mics, hi-hat mics, and (jazz) snare mics so if you're looking for something versatile then i'd definately recommend.

Yes, KM84's are nicer, the slightly brittle HF of the 184s can be a little much!

Had some good results with Rode NT3's in the past too.

good luck with the recording!

[lestat26]

Originally Posted by cdog

Get a Mini-Me and a pair of KM184s.

Its gonna cost your about $2K but you will not regret it, and you won't have to ever upgrade.

I have to disagree. I had this set up and do regret it respectfully . However, I am speaking of my experience recording classical, flamenco guitar with some percussions.
I found the Mini-me mic pres to be cold and bright, teamed with km184 = double bright. Maybe good for other apps, but this is my opinion.