Broadcast engineers, a little help please

[everybody's x]

I have several limiters given to me by a friend in radio. I have no manuals for anything.

one is a crl stereo gain controller

it has settings for
gain reduction (I know what this does)

then it has an "operation" knob with the folowing settings

"proof"
"S"
"M"
"F"


what do these settings do?

then it has a switch labeled "BAND" and settings for
"Dual"
"BOTH"
"WIDE"

can anyone break these down for me?

It sounds great on the two buss but it returns in mono for some reason even though it has stereo ins and outs

I have two other weirdo units too.

If anyone is familiar with this unit or broadcast stuff in general I'd appreciate the help

[BruceTheProduce]

i hope this helps

Bruce

[everybody's x]

actually that helped quite a bit getting me in the neighborhood.
the top unit seen here is the one I have, thanks google turned up nothing for me

[BruceTheProduce]

looks really nice. you know what? maybe the dual feature is for dual mono. try that to see if you can get the return in stereo that way

Bruce

[dtucker]

When I worked in radio we called CRL stuff "Crappy Radio Limiting". I'm not sure what you intend to do with it but I can't imagine it being worth any wasted time or hassle.

[everybody's x]

my thoughts were to use it to approximate the crappy sound of a radio signal, A/Bing shit to avoid surprises later.

and ALL radio limiting comprsession sounds like ass, but maybe it might be cool if it isnt compressing stuff that has already been compressed in mastering, what the hell I'll give it a shot


hey it was free and it looks cool!


so what the heck does "proof s m f" mean?

[XLR2XLR]

ALL radio limiting comprsession sounds like ass

I always wondered that why Orban processors cost USD10,000.00

[t_chance]

stereo
mono
feed

[Jim vanBergen]

If memory serves (its been a LONG time) the F in orban has a couple of different possible options depending on when & where the device is to be used:
1) FILTER (Rf filtering, carrier wave filtering, HP/LP to remove bandwidth from the limiting path
2) It could also be frequency selective limiting
3) Final limiting, aka finalization, or final brickwall.

I'm assuming you searched and did not find a manual?

I also suppose its not this one:
http://www.orban.com/brochures/crl/TVS%203003.pdf
but there are several CRLs on Orban's website. if you can find exactly which model, you can probably find a manual that has been uploaded on the 'net.

Hope these thoughts help!

[everybody's x]

Ha ha, OOOLD thread resurrected.

I sold the CRL quite some time ago

thanks for the help though

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by everybody's x

Ha ha, OOOLD thread resurrected.

I sold the CRL quite some time ago

thanks for the help though

Ahh, you got to love those new tags!

Little by little, I've been going into the archives and adding as many as I can.

Did you get a fair price for the sucker?

[everybody's x]

I got a CRAZY price for it, something like $600 on Ebay, not bad for a gift from a radio station storeroom.

sometimes I miss having it because you patch it in an you have the broadcast "sound" to reference immediately. I never mixed anything through it but it was a nice reference tool

[Chadlington]

Man.........I bet that thing was awesome. Radio gear is the Shit!. Remember, radio was first...there's a lot of great pieces from radio that are still used today.

Slow Medium fast is my guess