Any ECM slutz in this house?

[massimo]

I am surprised no one has mentioned Egberto Gismonti yet.
I believe he is one of the very few living geniuses in music, really!
He has a vast ECM discography, but for my taste I highly recommend "Infancia" and "Musica de sobrevivencia". These comprise some of the best compositions of ALL time in all genres, like "7 aneis" and "Forrò".
Ok, I am partial to Egberto.
Also, my other ECM hits:
Oregon - Ecotopia
Ralph Towner - Blue sun
John Surman - Private city
Jan Garbarek - I took up the runes
Terje Rypdal - If mountains could sing
Pat Metheny Group - First circle

best regards
Massimo

[Bryan Talbot]

Originally Posted by massimo

I am surprised no one has mentioned Egberto Gismonti yet.

Indeed - "Sol Do Meio Dia"...nineteen-eighty, very late at night in my apartment, playing softly so as not to disturb the neighbors...

[Omicron_9]

Another fine, yet overlooked, ECM gem is, "Later That Evening," by Eberhard Weber. Beautiful work on this album by Lyle Mays and Bill Frissel. Recommended.

-O.9

[KostasM]

I grew up on Pat Metheny , Lyle Mays, Keith Jarrett etc in the late 70's/early 80's and loved the "acoustic symphonic jazz" sound - which sounded fantastic on a pair of old Quad 57 electrostatics.

These days I'm thrilled to be recording the young musician inspired by these "greats" and who are taking things even further. I just missed out on meeting/recording Pat in Adelaide recently which was a bummer, but if you want to hear what a real "purist" approach to these sort of recordings on analogue [3 X Stellavox SM8s, a TD9, Neumann TLM50s with special power supplies/cables, B&K 4135s] then please visit:

http://www.metaxas.com/pages/masnewfiles/recordings.htm

Pianists of the calibre of Aaron Choulai [works with Tim Ries-Rolling Stones], Andrea Keller, Saxophonist Jamie Oehler - so many exceptional musicians, so I now "roll-my-own"...

[Bryan Talbot]

Originally Posted by KostasM

I grew up on Pat Metheny , Lyle Mays, Keith Jarrett etc in the late 70's/early 80's and loved the "acoustic symphonic jazz" sound.......so I now "roll-my-own"...

My biggest concern with my own creative adventures after my new studio is completed, is that those strong influences will come blazing forth, and my stuff will reek of wanna-be and also-ran.

Hell, those are intense influences and I can't avoid it, nor apologize for it.

[Open Sky]

Don't try to stop those influences from coming out--the world needs more of that kind of music anyway!

[Fidelis]

Originally Posted by massimo

I am surprised no one has mentioned Egberto Gismonti yet.
I believe he is one of the very few living geniuses in music, really!
He has a vast ECM discography, but for my taste I highly recommend "Infancia" and "Musica de sobrevivencia". These comprise some of the best compositions of ALL time in all genres, like "7 aneis" and "Forrò".

Yes, Egberto Gismonti is amazing! Love his stuff. He has two CD's with J. Garbarek and C. Haden that I love.

I'm playing now in my trio with bass player Zeca Assumpçao. He played with Egberto for 20 years or more. We just recorded a new CD (mixing it now) and it was and amazing experience for me to play with him.

[Robobo1]

Originally Posted by aves

i also like the "keith jarret live in norway". one my favorite jarret album's.

YES YES YES! One of my favorite ALBUMS, period. I can sing most of the solos... :)

[Bryan Talbot]

I've owned one Jarrett album, he, Jack DeJohnette and a bassist at the Deer Head Inn (or something) in New York. Jarrett's obviously brilliant, but I do wish he'd shut the hell up...I can't handle that mumbling and moaning thing. Eh - what do I know. I sold it.

Anybody ever owned that ten-record set, The Sun Bear Concerts? I always thought you had to be a crazy-rich fanatic to buy that thing.

[zarembo]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

but I do wish he'd shut the hell up...I can't handle that mumbling and moaning thing.

he he he

it was a shock the first time I heard him doing that, thought it was cool for a minute, then I felt a bit like you.

Lately I've been enjoying Anouar Brahem's Le Voyage de Sahar - 2006

Anouar Brahem : oud
François Couturier : piano
Jean Louis Matinier : accordion

I love the reverb quality and depth here--and many of the melodic motifs are downright catchy.

[Brian Brock]

Asking Keith Jarret not to vocalize is like asking Van Gogh not to cut his ear off.

The member of this forum named Bongo recorded that live at the Deer Head album.

b

[zarembo]

Perhaps Bongo will chime in and share a story?

This thread was started with the hope of discussing mostly the GEAR and TECHNIQUES, but we are mainly focusing on the music so far....because, of course, it's so good!

would be great to get more input on the inputs

keep the good news coming ECM SLUTZ!

[bongo]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

I've owned one Jarrett album, he, Jack DeJohnette and a bassist at the Deer Head Inn (or something) in New York. Jarrett's obviously brilliant, but I do wish he'd shut the hell up...I can't handle that mumbling and moaning thing. Eh - what do I know. I sold it.

I didn't use a vocal mic on him!



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[zarembo]

would you elaborate, if possible, any details of this recording?

are you SURE you didn't use a vocal mic?

Thanks Bongo

[benelli]

Steve Reich, Music for 18 Musicians, the ECM version, anyone? Have you guys heard this? Is it the greatest recording ever made by bipedal hominids? Or am I smoking rocks?

[Bryan Talbot]

I heard a bit of it, a long time ago. Definitely a landmark. I'd love to know how they mic'd all those mallet instruments. I'd also love to have a big room to put them in!

Now you've done it - I'll have to go buy a copy.

[Mazaga]

Originally Posted by Fidelis

Yes, Egberto Gismonti is amazing! Love his stuff. He has two CD's with J. Garbarek and C. Haden that I love.

I'm playing now in my trio with bass player Zeca Assumpçao. He played with Egberto for 20 years or more. We just recorded a new CD (mixing it now) and it was and amazing experience for me to play with him.

Hi Fidelis
Just hanging around here and saw your post...
Great recording...
amazing experience for you to play... for me it was amazing to have the opportunity to be there. REALLY
I want to listen when you have it finished.
Grande Abraço!

M.

[bongo]

Originally Posted by zarembo

would you elaborate, if possible, any details of this recording?

are you SURE you didn't use a vocal mic?

Thanks Bongo

Here's the scoop:

Keith grew up in nearby Allentown. When he was in high school, in the fifties, he used to go to the Deerhead at sit in on drums with Johnny Coates Jr. The owners were retiring and their daughter and her husband, who just happens to be Keith’s piano tech, took over. Keith did it for free to help him out. Gary Peacock and Paul Motian split the door. $20 x125 people. I heard Jack De Johnette didn’t want to do the gig because it didn’t pay enough. Don’t know that for a fact though. Although, for the small room, Paul was probably a better choice.

Bill Goodwin, who I worked with, with Phil Woods and others, asked me to record it. It was just to document the evening. I had never done a remote recording before but I wasn’t going to let that stop me. Bill set his drums up in the afternoon so I was able to get a small sound check on them.

OK, the gear. Here’s the funny part! Bill didn’t want this to look like a recording session. He told me to use as little as possible. I used all Audio Technica mics. I had two 4051’s inside the piano (which was on the short stick), an ATM35 clipped on the bass, an ATM835 stereo mic for the overheads, an ATM25 on the bass drum and an ATM35 clipped on the snare. I had to rent a mixer. The only thing I could find that had phantom power at that time was a 16-channel Yamaha PA board! I have no idea what model it was. I borrowed a snake and set up in the hallway on the second floor. I brought my KRK 7000’s, a Panasonic 3700 DAT and a PCM 70.

The band showed up around 5:30 and played for 6 minutes and that was my sound check. Keith came upstairs and listened to about thirty seconds and said, “Sounds fine”. Before the gig we all had dinner in a small private room. Keith brought his own espresso machine! The gig was supposed to start at 8:00 and do two sets. At 7:30 Keith says, “Let’s play”. They ended up playing 3 sets.

A couple of years later ECM put it out and I actually got paid! A friend of mine said, “You did a live record for ECM, now you have nowhere to go except down!” I’ve had a few highlights since then.

There's a little sound clip here.

[zarembo]

I see this thread got moved to my favorite forum on GS, which is

GOOD NEWS INDEED!!!

Thanks Bongo for the great story--

pure gold

ps Steve Reich "Octet - Music for a Large Ensemble - Violin Phase" on vinyl is among my favorite Reich. Although "Music for 18 Musicians" is up there as well.

The gatefold album for Octet has photos of the recording session with MANY notable mics pictured, and how much do I love photos of MIC PLACEMENT?

Also done by Mr. Martin Wieland at Tonstudio Bauer.

[Bryan Talbot]

Attention Terje Rypdal fans -

I am listening to his newest album, Vossabrygg.

FANTASTIC, BEAUTIFUL STUFF...with several longtime Rypdal cohorts, and son Marius Rypdal doing loops and samples, some of them from Rypdal's early nineties work "Ineo".

Also, there are intentional tie-ins to Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew."

If you don't have this CD, buy it now.

[alfonso]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

Anybody into the old Art Ensemble of Chicago stuff?

I've been at 3 concerts during the early 80's, fantastic stuff, if they have made some terrific stuff in studio, their live performances were beyond any imagination.

Anyway, one of the most beautiful records they made is called "People in Sorrow", I had the vinyl and lost it many years ago....it was not ECM though...I think...
If you find it, get it immediatly, it's the most touching and inspiring thing that came out from the advanced jazz scene...

[Bryan Talbot]

Originally Posted by alfonso

I've been at 3 concerts during the early 80's, fantastic stuff, if they have made some terrific stuff in studio, their live performances were beyond any imagination.

They were at an annual jazz festival that Vanderbilt Univ. used to put on, in 1981. Unfortunately, that year it was held in a huge basketball gym...weather or something. The acoustics were naturally horrible, and Malachi Favors' bass was virtually inaudible. There they were, blazing away, the guy absolutely burning up the acoustic bass - and I couldn't hear a f'in note.

Famoudou Don Moye did a drum solo that damn near made me hang up the drums forever.

Most everybody in attendance seemed pretty baffled (dumbasses) but it was sure cool to see them.

[firby]

edited.

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by benelli

Steve Reich, Music for 18 Musicians, the ECM version, anyone? Have you guys heard this? Is it the greatest recording ever made by bipedal hominids? Or am I smoking rocks?

Yes, quite good. Another ECM gem is David Byrne (eek!) "The Knee Plays"

Never released on CD, either.

[brucegel]

All praise for the E.C.M. label begins and ends with his genius.You can gain insight into the man by watching KEITH JARRETT'S ART OF IMPROVISATION DVD.JOHN SURMANS album The Amazing Adventures Of Simon Simon remains a brilliant crossing of electronics and acoustic instrumentation...check it out.

[Bryan Talbot]

I just picked up a concert DVD of a '94 performance by Terje Rypdal, Miroslav Vitous, and Trilok Gurtu. Not by ECM label though; maybe they should consider some video catalog?

VERY cool, highly recommended.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by Plush

I'm definitely into the ECM "New Series" classical work.
I especially like the Arvo Part recordings done by the Heidelberg tonmeister, Teije van Geest. He did about 5 of them and each is very good.

However, Manfred Eicher, the producer, has to have his hands slapped as he reaches to adjust the faders on the recording console.

Let van Geest, a master, do that work!

I love the ECM Arvo Part Te Deum, but the one I have wasnt by Van Geest.(did he do one of those too?). It was recorded in 1993 in Lohjan Kirkko, Finland...Tonmeister--Peter Laenger. This is one of my favorite recordings!

Speaking of Bauer Studios in Ludwigsburg...Had to call them yesterday to see if they could take a location gig that I didnt think I would have time to do, but I ended up doing it anyway. Nice folks.!

[Plush]

Van Geest has done the majority of the Arvo Part work with the Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir and the conductor Tonu Kaljuste. These are part of the ECM "New Series." The time period for van Geest began around 1994 and continued at least until 1998.

these won major awards
Check: Part: Passio
Kanon Pokajanen
+ others

also his work with the Part protege, Veljo Tormis.

ECM lost the services of the Estonian Choir after some American and French labels offered more money than ECM.