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Old 26th August 2010   #1
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I recorded a semi-professional church choir and I am having problems isolating some annoying room sounds. I called them semi-professionals because of how loudly they turned their pages. Professionals usually memorize their parts and if they are going to be reading they turn pages in between breaths. I had to compress very lightly and of course these brought up even more room noise. Please some advice on eqs or how would I go about using a multi-band compressor if it is applicable. Mainly the only annoying noise are the high freq page turning that disrupts the whole mix. Thanks for any good advice.
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You might try using the Izotope RX thingy. I've seen it do some reasonable clean ups.

Here's one example of cleaning up guitar string squeeks:
YouTube - iZotope RX - Spectral Repair: Replace mode fixes fret noise

In the end the success with these things will always depend on the recorded material.
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If you have time, Algoritmix reNOVAtor is great for manual noise reduction.
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+1 on izotopeRX,.... if the page turning aint too bad you can pretty much get rid of it.

if its real bad, well not much you can do really i dont think.
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How to Eq some room sound off from Choir recording?

Gently automate the volume down on the pages, and/or automate an EQ to throw on a high shelf on the pages, and/or try an expander, but use it carefully, a lot of nuance sounds going on in a choir track I'm sure.
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Reducing the decay time with a transient shaper might help a little in some cases ...
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You might try using the Izotope RX thingy. I've seen it do some reasonable clean ups.

Here's one example of cleaning up guitar string squeeks:
YouTube - iZotope RX - Spectral Repair: Replace mode fixes fret noise

In the end the success with these things will always depend on the recorded material.
This thing works wonders especially in spectral mode. You can go in and remove unwanted sounds without messing with the audios integrity. I use this as a click remover as well lol When I get too much bleed on acoustic etc. A must have tool for the price. Not for everything but when you need it, its there.
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I don't believe this is discussed enough; you must address these issues during the origination...

I mean, 5 to 10 minutes of re-adjustment and proper mic placement is truly the key to a quicker mix session. Five minutes upfront will save you five hours of repair work later.

I understand that this doesn't help your situation much today, but it is food for thought...

Perhaps the next time you're capturing a church choir you will examine where the speakers and instruments are placed and how their positions may affect the choir mics.

All the best with the repair work.
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I use Algorhythmix reNOVAtor to remove these types of noises. A skilled hand can remove all traces without impacting the program material. But like Steve Remote said, it's best to address this issue with the group prior to actually tracking them.

An example with a semi-professional choir I recorded 2 years ago. I gave them pointers before we started tracking about keeping noises to a minimum, including page turns and any creaking risers. It went well for the first few hours but as the session went into the last few hours, they got sloppier and sloppier. The $1800 I charged them for the hours and hours of noise removal was much more than I charged them for the recording session. It was an expensive lesson for the group, but it worked. I recorded another session with them a few weeks ago and they were much quieter. NO page turning noises.
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