Remote truck edict (snake)

[shproductions03]

Can some of you remote veterans tell me about professional edict like. Who's mic snake, remote truck or PA company, plus is it a common practice to tie two splitter snakes together, mic inputs to remote snake then one split in PA snake two to remote truck. Or is it common to have a three way split FOH, Mon. Truck. And if the three way is the biggest practice is it provided by Remote company or PA company. I' am looking to be able to split 48 channels but want to know if I can tie mine into there's, and do house and PA company's hate remote guys for making them use the remotes snakes. One more ? mix postion in the remote truck, live to 2-track Air. who gets that job is it up to the remote company as to who mix's or is it like live sound where there is always someone who is there to turn knobs.

[Remoteness]

It’s about what’s more effective.

Do you need to keep the tour engineers & technicians happy and do it their way? Or do you interface for the best captured audio recording? It depends on the diverse motivations of the parties involved.

When we come in to record a “one off” during a band’s long arse tour I’d rather keep the interface as simple as possible by going with what their technicians suggest. This keeps things simple by minimizing the amount of change to their equipment settings. At that point you can usually add additional mics to your system without affecting their input scheme.

If you’re there at the beginning of the tour or it’s all about the DVD, live recording or captured event I tend to reflect on maximizing the sound quality by handling primary audio with our own mics, DIs, stands, cables, splits and such. You know what you have Confidence is high when I use our own stuff. This isn’t to say the PA folks don’t have first-rate gear, I’m saying I know the reliability and level of maintenance ahead of time!

Preproduction helps with this kind of stuff. You got to talk to the folks you’re going to work in advance. Address the important issues keeps the (bad) surprises to a minimum.

Look at it this way… Anything is possible

• You can take a split from them non isolated and patched it into the transformer side of your split. Sometimes it could be bridging FOH with MON non isolated…grr

• you can take isolated feeds (second or third split outputs) from their setup and patched it into the non isolated side of your system or directly patch to your mic pres then come back to the truck line level.

• Why not use an active or passive splitters to feed the “World.”

• Sometimes you’re giving a feed to their splitter and it may be isolated or non isolated. My splits have fed non isolated PA stage boxes that tie FOH and MON together with no additional problems from us.

• Interfacing can happen on stage, at FOH, in the venue’s terminal room or all of the above.

So, keep in mind that you can tie two splitter snakes together and all sorts of fun and not so fun ways to interface different systems. They can be isolated or non isolate – It’s all about the ground potential between systems.

Multiple split systems can be provided by anyone applicable to the production venture. PA, remote truck, rental house or the recording engineers rig. More issues to address ahead of time.

Come on now… Is that a trick question? “Who gets to mix the live to 2-track air mix?” Most event producer would want the truck to do the mix unless there are other reasons why it shouldn’t go down that way. Maybe the TV truck or the venues recording studio may handle that task.

If you have an experience mixer which is also recording the event in the truck there should be no problem for the truck to handle the on-air mix.

[shproductions03]

Hello Remoteness its a really pleasure to talk with you I have a great respect for you and what you do. I didn't no how the mix duty's worked I no in the live sound business no matter how good the PA company's tech's are there always seems to be some guy from the band that say's we have a guy who can mix,(brother of the guitar player) and first thing he does is ask what's a compressor, then I no I' am in for a long day.
I have closed my studio of 7 years and Iam looking forward to start building my first remote trailer. This is very exciting to my because I've been a studio guy for 10 years and a live sound guy for 12. Now its a whole new ball game. Your forum is a great place for knowledge and I look forward to it every day. Thanks

[Remoteness]

Thanks a lot.

More power to you!