Ribbons Suited for Side of M/S?

wilcofan · 27th November 2005

Hey all,

I'm looking for a companion for my M160 hypercardioid to do some M/S drum overheads.

Which mics are in the running as Side mics? I see the R-121 is lopsided. How important is this? So far I can see the M130 and SF1 are advertised as identical on both sides of the figure-8.

Any others? I'm attracted most to the Coles 4038 and it looks pretty similar on it's charts.

Any direct experience with ribbons in M/S is appreciated.

Thanks,
Bobby

r0ck1r0ck2 · 27th November 2005

beyer 130 man...

warhead · 27th November 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0ck1r0ck2

beyer 130 man...

+1

War

I Lurk · 27th November 2005

+2

M130 are designed to go with the M160 for M/S recordings.

A royer doesn't sound the same on both lobes.

regards

r0ck1r0ck2 · 27th November 2005

plus they'll match like a good suit....
think of the LOOKS MAN

wilcofan · 16th December 2005

Hey guys,

I was getting pretty slutty on the Coles and Royers but the weak US dollar just drove Canadian prices on the M-130 locally down to $575 CDN. That's too smokin' to pass up so I ordered one.

BTW, when my band was here for rehearsal on Monday I happened to have a BM5 B&O stereo ribbon to demo. We threw it on the drums in my home studio in M/S against the M-160 on Mid and BM5 channel 2 on Side.

The hypercardioid of the M-160 really sounded better to us on Mid than the BM5's inherent figure-8 on both channels. The BM5 has a nice round-ness but from 5 feet it just highlighted the fact we were in a basement. I have portable Tube Traps and built-in base traps but my studio never sounded so basement.

The Beyer's are darker but I'm starting to like that again about them.

Bobby

r0ck1r0ck2 · 16th December 2005

Great...!!
i'd love to find a 130 for that amount....

when you get them together post a picture of the little penguins!

gregor z · 16th December 2005

+3....

get two 130s so you can do the blumlein for overheads (i use them with http://www.sabrasom.com.br/) suspension mounts with great results. Very good for strings and percussion too.

C/G · 16th December 2005

Bobby, where did you find an M130 for $575 CDN? I will be on that like stink on a monkey. Not Lie and Persuade cuz I don't think they are a Beyer dealer. Full Compass still has the cheapest prices in the US for those and 160's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilcofan

Hey guys,

I was getting pretty slutty on the Coles and Royers but the weak US dollar just drove Canadian prices on the M-130 locally down to $575 CDN. That's too smokin' to pass up so I ordered one.

BTW, when my band was here for rehearsal on Monday I happened to have a BM5 B&O stereo ribbon to demo. We threw it on the drums in my home studio in M/S against the M-160 on Mid and BM5 channel 2 on Side.

The hypercardioid of the M-160 really sounded better to us on Mid than the BM5's inherent figure-8 on both channels. The BM5 has a nice round-ness but from 5 feet it just highlighted the fact we were in a basement. I have portable Tube Traps and built-in base traps but my studio never sounded so basement.

The Beyer's are darker but I'm starting to like that again about them.

Bobby

tvanveen · 16th December 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Lurk

A royer doesn't sound the same on both lobes.

Neither does the R84.

Pohaku · 16th December 2005

M130. I got mine NIB as an e-bay special. Hardly anyone bid. I paid $306 US for it. The guy appeared to be clearing out the entire Beyer line as he seemed to be offering one of each model. Goes great with the M160. Surprisingly tiny.

r0ck1r0ck2 · 17th December 2005

$306 dammit....good deal..

27th November 2005	#1
wilcofan Gear addict Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Dieppe, Canada Posts: 426 Thread Starter	Ribbons Suited for Side of M/S? Hey all, I'm looking for a companion for my M160 hypercardioid to do some M/S drum overheads. Which mics are in the running as Side mics? I see the R-121 is lopsided. How important is this? So far I can see the M130 and SF1 are advertised as identical on both sides of the figure-8. Any others? I'm attracted most to the Coles 4038 and it looks pretty similar on it's charts. Any direct experience with ribbons in M/S is appreciated. Thanks, Bobby

16th December 2005	#11
Pohaku Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 1,036	M130. I got mine NIB as an e-bay special. Hardly anyone bid. I paid $306 US for it. The guy appeared to be clearing out the entire Beyer line as he seemed to be offering one of each model. Goes great with the M160. Surprisingly tiny. __________________ Yeah I'm an attorney, but everyone needs a day job.

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27th November 2005	#2
r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,618	beyer 130 man...

27th November 2005	#4
I Lurk Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 574	+2 M130 are designed to go with the M160 for M/S recordings. A royer doesn't sound the same on both lobes. regards

16th December 2005	#8
gregor z Gear addict Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Slovenia Posts: 417	+3.... get two 130s so you can do the blumlein for overheads (i use them with http://www.sabrasom.com.br/) suspension mounts with great results. Very good for strings and percussion too.

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r0ck1r0ck2 Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Barcelona!! Posts: 1,618	$306 dammit....good deal..