Why Sennheiser MKH8000 mics?

[Marik]

Originally Posted by nosebleedaudio

Well IF the mic does indeed draw 10ma, the mic would ONLY have 14 Volts left to work with...Not much..Based on the typical 6.8K resistors...
And that does NOT include the current to drive the input impedance of the mic pre...
My question is; do these mics REALLY draw that much OR is it the "Requirement" amount?? Big difference..

Many mics actually drop voltages to ~9-12V for the FET stage and as low as 7V for DC/DC converter, so 14V is no biggie.

Best, M

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by Audiop

The remote cables for 8000 series, how flexible are they?

John? :-)


/Peter

Very flexible, almost as flexible as the thin Rycote S-series XLR tails that I use for isolation.


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[Audiop]

Thanks John!

Think I'll buy me a pair of the 3 meters.

I recorded dialog for a short film in a car last weekend and GAC4/1 was less than optimum to work with trying to hide away and tape to the roof.

The MKH8000 remote cables will be nice for use on stage as well with the extension tubes/stands (a must if I remember correct).


/Peter

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by Audiop

Thanks John!

Think I'll buy me a pair of the 3 meters.

I recorded dialog for a short film in a car last weekend and GAC4/1 was less than optimum to work with trying to hide away and tape to the roof.

The MKH8000 remote cables will be nice for use on stage as well with the extension tubes/stands (a must if I remember correct).


/Peter

Yes.

I have actually bought several of the 3-metre remote cables which I will cut up (as Sennheiser don't do what I need).

Two of them will be used to make a Y-cable that will feed two heads down a single extension tube - the Y-cable will be about 9 or 10 cm long so I can clip two heads as ORTF or spaced omni on a small stereo bar and feed both down a single extension tube on a single stand.

Another cable will be cut and have an XLR-5M on the end to get the stereo signal out at the other end.

I will then have two spare "out" ends - on one I will have an XLR-5F and on the other an XLR-3F - these will be used for connecting MKH normal mics to the MZD 8000.

I also have a 10 and 3 meter normal remote cable for proper use.

[rumleymusic]

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

[Marik]

Originally Posted by rumleymusic

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

I am wondering if it ever comes a day when people will need to go to Wallmart to shop for Schoeps, or DPA...

Best, M

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by John Willett

Very flexible, almost as flexible as the thin Rycote S-series XLR tails that I use for isolation.

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We have quite a few of the 3 and 10 meter cables and find them very flexible.

Originally Posted by Audiop

Thanks John!

Think I'll buy me a pair of the 3 meters.

I recorded dialog for a short film in a car last weekend and GAC4/1 was less than optimum to work with trying to hide away and tape to the roof.

The MKH8000 remote cables will be nice for use on stage as well with the extension tubes/stands (a must if I remember correct).

/Peter

The MKH8000 series extension tubes/stands are so elegant.
We used seven of them last week on a two recording at Alice Tully Hall.
They are seriously sexy and a must have on that sort of production.

We have ten bases and a variety of 60 and 120 CM tubes and stands to handle all sorts of sizes.

I'd love to build up the inventory to 12 bases in the very near future.

Originally Posted by rumleymusic

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

Originally Posted by Marik

I am wondering if it ever comes a day when people will need to go to Wallmart to shop for Schoeps, or DPA...

Best, M

I don't know, if the price is right, I wonder if it really matters as much to folks these days.
From my experience, I know great service means a lot to only a few.
But what about the masses?
Not too many want to pay for outstanding service let alone good service.
Perhaps we are to blame when it comes to this sort of reseller purchase possibilities.

It is pretty scary either way you look at it, but...

[Robobo1]

Originally Posted by rumleymusic

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

Hah! No worries.

You can find all sorts of professional audio gear on there. Sears.com is a reseller, kinda like Amazon.

[rumleymusic]

Originally Posted by Robobo1

Hah! No worries.

You can find all sorts of professional audio gear on there. Sears.com is a reseller, kinda like Amazon.

Yeah, I see it is not sold directly by Sears. Just seems very, very odd. Now, I'm off to Macy's to pick myself up a Forssell preamp, they are right next to the CNC milling deparment.

[studer58]

Seems kind of appropriate really, I hope they'd at least shelve them next to the Craftsmen 11/16" socket wrenches ! I've always considered high end mics to be tools of the calibre of precisely made automotive tools, in other words the sort you'd find in the workshop of a auto service technician who's been in business for 40 years and has never had to replace a broken tool, even once. He selects the right implement for the job, treats it with respect and expects it to outlast the initial (seemingly high) expenditure in service to his profession. Same goes for the master chef's knives, the electronic tech's multimeter, the piano tuner's ear, etc etc. Sure we've all been seduced by the $5 adjustable wrench made in China, and then cursed when it broke after a few uses....did we really expect to get more than we paid for ? Extend the analogy to mics, preamps, stand hardware and so on as appropriate....

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by studer58

Seems kind of appropriate really, I hope they'd at least shelve them next to the Craftsmen 11/16" socket wrenches ! I've always considered high end mics to be tools of the calibre of precisely made automotive tools, in other words the sort you'd find in the workshop of a auto service technician who's been in business for 40 years and has never had to replace a broken tool, even once. He selects the right implement for the job, treats it with respect and expects it to outlast the initial (seemingly high) expenditure in service to his profession. Same goes for the master chef's knives, the electronic tech's multimeter, the piano tuner's ear, etc etc. Sure we've all been seduced by the $5 adjustable wrench made in China, and then cursed when it broke after a few uses....did we really expect to get more than we paid for ? Extend the analogy to mics, preamps, stand hardware and so on as appropriate....

Very true - my old MKH 40s are over 25 years old, still going strong, are in perfect condition and worth over double what they were when I bought them.


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[Petrus]

Originally Posted by rumleymusic

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

From the product description on that page (slightly edited):

"Product Description
The cardioid MKH 8040 is suitable for almost any application. This is very helpful when disturbing sounds impinge mainly from the rear."

There surely would be cheaper alternatives for that from the plumbing section?

[rumleymusic]

There surely would be cheaper alternatives for that from the plumbing section?

He, he...toilet humor...dfegad

[hbphotoav]

Originally Posted by rumleymusic

Okay, these mics have officially lost their credibility

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

That price is good, though not great. And if Sears can make a buck selling them... why not? I wonder if they'll give purchasers their Craftsman Tools warranty though? You know... lifetime guarantee if they break?

[sonare]

I did a search for "microphone" and got 6300 hits, among them a genuine U 47-- said something about "made in China" tho.






Just kidding--

Rich

[sonare]

Here is another treasure from Sears-- Heloise & the Savoir Faire Trash, Rats and Microphones Digipack Packaging on Sears

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by hbphotoav

That price is good, though not great. And if Sears can make a buck selling them... why not? I wonder if they'll give purchasers their Craftsman Tools warranty though? You know... lifetime guarantee if they break?

They should do as they are tools for a craftsman.


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[whambam]

HI, long time lurker here.

redundancy package give me a reason to finally start asking questions!

can anybody tell me how this mike fares on cello / double bass. and which of the three options would be preferable

thanks
J

[michael cleary]

Originally Posted by whambam

HI, long time lurker here.

redundancy package give me a reason to finally start asking questions!

can anybody tell me how this mike fares on cello / double bass. and which of the three options would be preferable

thanks
J

I've only used these on acoustic. Tried the 8020 but ended up using the 8040 cardioid since the room I was recording in was noisy and wasn't flattering. The omni 8020 extend down to about 10hz as I recall so may be better for your application. All in all great mics though.

[jmcarlock]

Originally Posted by hbphotoav

That price is good, though not great. And if Sears can make a buck selling them... why not? I wonder if they'll give purchasers their Craftsman Tools warranty though? You know... lifetime guarantee if they break?

It looks like Sears is having a special on the MKH800-TWIN. Only $42,319.00.

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

[klaukholm]

Originally Posted by jmcarlock

It looks like Sears is having a special on the MKH800-TWIN. Only $42,319.00.

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

That is hilarious!
I guess that puts my 800s at a used price of say 25k no?