multi pin-XLR chassis mount system???

[BFSound]

Hey guys question here. Steve please feel free to chime in i love you back of rack setups very nice!! Were getting ready to have a mobile recording rig with the studiolive 24 when they ship here in Q2.

Were going to have a slitter box with 2 way 8ch XLR passive isolated splitters. 24-32 ch expandable whenever. I want to go from the splitter outs to chassis mounted elco or whatever 56pin connectors so i can connect send snakes to my mixer and FOH snake etc..

Looking for companies where i can buy them pre made or have them made.

This is how i would like it to be as well. I want it set up for 32 to FOH and 32 sends for recording/ monitoring abilities. 2x 16 each way to 4 connectors total 2 for FOH 2 or Recording ch 1-16 and 17-32 Chassis mounted female EDAC 516-56 pin connectors which on the back side are patched to the splitters.. What do ya think who can make me the chassis mount system with connectors and all? Even if you can make a custom one steve?

Thanks

[Remoteness]

Yes, we really dig our custom rack panels; thanks for noticing them.

While you're waiting for your StudioLive 24 you should design a block diagram base on what you want accomplished. This way you can fine tune the design while considering plan "B" or even "C."

A 2-way 8 channel passive (isolated) splitters sounds like a plan, but are you going to also install the additional expandable channels upfront or later down the line?

I ask this because this is an important decision to make since the fabrication and wiring of the box is a big part of entire system.
It may make more sense to get all this done upfront.
I would build the box and wire the complete system and just (add) install the XFMRs as you can afford them.

ELCOs can be very cool, but you MUST be very careful with them.
I you're going to have all sorts of people working with the gear I would go with a more robust connector.
Something that can handle the potential abuse.

We use ELCOs because we know the drill and never let anyone touch them unless they know exactly where we're coming from with regard to the handling and treatment those efficient, but fragile connectors.

IMO, I would use MXLR fan outs for the two splitter outs.
It can get expensive if you're talking multipins for the FOH desk, because every situation is different and you will always need MXLRs so why bother with a multi-pin for FOH unless you have the bread to make it so.

I would also use MXLRs for your mic pre (console) input too.
There's few reasons why this is a good idea...
* Economics
* Both direct and isolated snake will be the same, so you can interchange them if necessary
* Both FOH and REC can cross patch without needing a patch-bay and such

Whirlwind, Radial, Wireworks and others can do the custom work, but it is not inexpensive to say the least.

There are stock products that can be use or modified after you get them.
If we're not building from scratch, we have grabbed stock units and custom wired them to suit our needs.

Perhaps I'm having a senior moment; I'm a bit confused in how you want your rig set-up...
2 X 16 each way to 4 connectors total 2 for FOH 2 or Recording ch 1-16 and 17-32 chassis mounted female ELCO/EDAC, etc...

That being said, anything can be design and build as long as it works for you and stays simple for the live performance work flow dynamic.

I hope this helped.

[BFSound]

My thoughts might have been scrambled. Ill try and answer them 1 at a time.

1.) for the expandability i was thinking of having 32 up front and being able to ad them 8 ch at a time more if needed.

2.) Your fanout suggestion. I was looking at EWI snakes and fanouts. I like the idea of just connecting a FXLR to MXLR to the studiolive and to the FOH snake. The reason i was thinking of having the splitters wired to multipin connectors is so i dont have to connect and disconnect 64 xlr connections and all that. This way i could connect lts say a 15' 16ch MXLR to multipin and be done. Input order and stuff should always be the same, i would be the only one hooking them up as for how many people will be messing with them goes.

3.) for my idea that kind of confused you a bit. Since they are 2way splitters there are 32 direct outputs to FOH stage snake and 32 isolated outputs to recording and or monitor rig. So i dont know much about multipin connectors and how they hook up but EWi sell 16ch XLR to EDAC 516-56 pin snakes in various lengths. So i was thinking there would be 2 female EDAC connectors for FOH 16 ch ea. and 2 for the recording rig 16ch ea. I dont know how many ch can be connected to one mutlipin at one time? I like the idea of 16ch sends because its not one huge snake but not a bunch of little ones either. If they make a 32ch MXLR to multipin send snake that would work as well and i would just have two multipin connections on the back of the splitter box. Does all that make sense

Originally Posted by Remoteness

Yes, we really dig our custom rack panels; thanks for noticing them.

While you're waiting for your StudioLive 24 you should design a block diagram base on what you want accomplished. This way you can fine tune the design while considering plan "B" or even "C."

A 2-way 8 channel passive (isolated) splitters sounds like a plan, but are you going to also install the additional expandable channels upfront or later down the line?

I ask this because this is an important decision to make since the fabrication and wiring of the box is a big part of entire system.
It may make more sense to get all this done upfront.
I would build the box and wire the complete system and just (add) install the XFMRs as you can afford them.

ELCOs can be very cool, but you MUST be very careful with them.
I you're going to have all sorts of people working with the gear I would go with a more robust connector.
Something that can handle the potential abuse.

We use ELCOs because we know the drill and never let anyone touch them unless they know exactly where we're coming from with regard to the handling and treatment those efficient, but fragile connectors.

IMO, I would use MXLR fan outs for the two splitter outs.
It can get expensive if you're talking multipins for the FOH desk, because every situation is different and you will always need MXLRs so why bother with a multi-pin for FOH unless you have the bread to make it so.

I would also use MXLRs for your mic pre (console) input too.
There's few reasons why this is a good idea...
* Economics
* Both direct and isolated snake will be the same, so you can interchange them if necessary
* Both FOH and REC can cross patch without needing a patch-bay and such

Whirlwind, Radial, Wireworks and others can do the custom work, but it is not inexpensive to say the least.

There are stock products that can be use or modified after you get them.
If we're not building from scratch, we have grabbed stock units and custom wired them to suit our needs.

Perhaps I'm having a senior moment; I'm a bit confused in how you want your rig set-up...
2 X 16 each way to 4 connectors total 2 for FOH 2 or Recording ch 1-16 and 17-32 chassis mounted female ELCO/EDAC, etc...

That being said, anything can be design and build as long as it works for you and stays simple for the live performance work flow dynamic.

I hope this helped.