Shure KSM 141...are they good?

[suedesound]

We have one at the studio I work at and sleeper mic is the best way to describe it!

I never used it for the first year I was there, then someone busted it out for acoustic and I loved it. Now our go to for live in studio sessions on AG. I'm not much of a HH mic fan but it seems to work there well. I've heard good results with it used on amps (not my sessions).

I seriously think I have to try it on bottom snare now too!

[rockstar_josh]

I have a pair of the KSM 137s (cardioid only) and they are great on acoustic instruments!

[monkeyxx]

I am really enjoying my pair... I use them on acoustic guitar, drum overheads, and the other day got a really great percussion sound in omni, while playing an assortment of hand drums and things. I used it also on an electric guitar track that got high praise from a friend of mine. really solid mic (the oktavas seemed fragile, to me), great sound, agree that these seem versatile. I liked it on snare drum too, but I usually have them in the overhead position on drum kits

[Dr Bob]

Originally Posted by grockvt

would these be good for recording piano?

I have a pair of 141's that I have tried on a lot of sound sources. Like the other posters I do not use them for distance miking. They are, however, among my favorite "inside the piano" mics for jazz and pop piano (my other favorite being the C414buls). Try them in omni for close miked piano.

[NorseHorse]

Speaking of 141 in omni on jazz piano...

Here's a sample from last night. It's a symphonic band performing with a guest jazz rhythm section and trumpet soloist. My main array caters to the band, so I used some spots to make sure I'd have enough control over the special additions. I went with 141s for both the trumpet and piano, primarily because of their size.

I taped a 141 to the inside of the piano (a la Closed Lid Piano Miking- as requested!) quickly during the last set change and didn't want to worry about a larger mic. The other 141 was taped to a Sennheiser dynamic of some sort being used by the house sound techs. I didn't want to clutter the stage with another mic stand, but I also didn't want to use their signal, if it was even possible. I had the 15db pad on, as well as the "less steep" low cut (-6 db/octave below 115 Hz). Both mics were in omni. The piano lid was open full-stick.

I've attached a sample of the signal from the mics. Trumpet on the L, Piano on the R. No processing. Signal Chain: 141s -> Grace -> R44

[Corran]

Christian, you should post this in the other 137/141 thread too.

I like the trumpet sound a lot, and am surprised at how good it sounds (I always use a ribbon for trumpet, just because they always seem to work). The piano is okay but there is a little too much bleed from the drums and bass to make a judgement call. I wouldn't mind hearing the whole mix. I've recorded this tune before but the title eludes me...

[NorseHorse]

Joy Spring by Clifford Brown

(Mix in progress.)

[Corran]

Of course!!

[NorseHorse]

For those of you who were curious about mic placement, I have some pictures. In one picture, you can see the 141 taped to the house mic. In the other shot, you can see the gaff tape and mic in the piano if you look closely.

Other mics in the picture include my 4050 on drumset, the house's black KSM32 (I think) on the piano. And can you spot AT4050 on bass?

Cheers.

[initself]

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

I like it for snare bottom.

What do you like for snare top?