M/S monitoring on a FR-2?

Mikkel Nielsen · 29th November 2009

Hi all

Im planning on getting the fairly new Ambient Emesser figure-8 mic, to piggy back on my 416.
I got a problem though. Im recording on to a Fostex FR-2, which has no M/S decoding. I wont be able to monitor the M/S signal corretly.
Any of you know og a hardware unit (preferable small, and on batteries) which will make me able to do this?
I was thinking about this one: Peter Engh - Sound Recording Interface Products but dont know if it will do the job?

Thanks alot for helping out

Best wishes,

Mikkel

Matty Muir · 29th November 2009

That certainly looks like the one. I've never used it but, in theory, that's what it's supposed to do. Let me know if it works.

MM

John Willett · 30th November 2009

It will *not* do what you want it to do - sorry, it's not really suitable.

It's a transformer box that does MS conversion at line level - the only way you can use it for monitoring from an FR-2 is to connect it to the line-outs and then to a separate headphone amplifier.

You *could* use it with a Graham Slee Voyager. Use XLR / XLR cables from the FR-2 to the Sonic Orbit - then XLR / inoi-jack lead to the Voyager and monitor there.

Personally, I have an Audio Developments box for this - but it was discontinued a few years ago.

Matti · 30th November 2009

Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15

Matti

Mikkel Nielsen · 30th November 2009

Hi all

Thanks alot for helping me out!
That MS15 looks like the thing I need.
Just emailed Pearl.

Thanks again.

Best wishes,

Mikkel

Matti · 30th November 2009

John Willett · 30th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATTI

Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15

Matti

Direct Link

Looks very interesting - I was going to do a search for such things but have not yet had the time.

Matti · 30th November 2009

Or make your own, Sowter Type 8392

Matti

John Willett · 30th November 2009

THIS looks perfect - but it says "not available at present" - may be worth contacting them, though, especially as it has an adjustable width control.

Matti · 30th November 2009

AEA knows MS

Matti

John Willett · 30th November 2009

Got it!

THIS is what you need.

Headphone amplifier, battery powered, complete with MS switch.

Plug into the line-outs of the FR-2 for perfect monitoring.

The FR-2's headphone amp is pretty poor and was designed for lowest battery consumption - this will by-pass the internal amp and give you a decent headphone amp. with MS monitoring.

The Pearl unit mentioned earlier is just an in-line transformer to use with the existing headphone amp.

I hope this helps.

Mikkel Nielsen · 30th November 2009

Thanks alot John. I´ll check it out

Best wishes,

Mikkel

29th November 2009	#1
Mikkel Nielsen Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 311 Thread Starter	M/S monitoring on a FR-2? Hi all Im planning on getting the fairly new Ambient Emesser figure-8 mic, to piggy back on my 416. I got a problem though. Im recording on to a Fostex FR-2, which has no M/S decoding. I wont be able to monitor the M/S signal corretly. Any of you know og a hardware unit (preferable small, and on batteries) which will make me able to do this? I was thinking about this one: Peter Engh - Sound Recording Interface Products but dont know if it will do the job? Thanks alot for helping out Best wishes, Mikkel

30th November 2009	#3
John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 4,881	It will not do what you want it to do - sorry, it's not really suitable. It's a transformer box that does MS conversion at line level - the only way you can use it for monitoring from an FR-2 is to connect it to the line-outs and then to a separate headphone amplifier. You could use it with a Graham Slee Voyager. Use XLR / XLR cables from the FR-2 to the Sonic Orbit - then XLR / inoi-jack lead to the Voyager and monitor there. Personally, I have an Audio Developments box for this - but it was discontinued a few years ago. __________________ John Willett Circle Sound Services President - Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons (and lots more - please look at my Profile)

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John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 4,881	THIS looks perfect - but it says "not available at present" - may be worth contacting them, though, especially as it has an adjustable width control. Attached Thumbnails

30th November 2009	#11
John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 4,881	Got it! THIS is what you need. Headphone amplifier, battery powered, complete with MS switch. Plug into the line-outs of the FR-2 for perfect monitoring. The FR-2's headphone amp is pretty poor and was designed for lowest battery consumption - this will by-pass the internal amp and give you a decent headphone amp. with MS monitoring. The Pearl unit mentioned earlier is just an in-line transformer to use with the existing headphone amp. I hope this helps. Attached Thumbnails

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29th November 2009	#2
Matty Muir Gear nut Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 122	That certainly looks like the one. I've never used it but, in theory, that's what it's supposed to do. Let me know if it works. MM

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Matti Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 3,696	Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15 Matti

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Mikkel Nielsen Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 311 Thread Starter	Thanks alot John. I´ll check it out Best wishes, Mikkel

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