M/S monitoring on a FR-2?

Pindebraende · 29th November 2009, 10:10 PM

Hi all

Im planning on getting the fairly new Ambient Emesser figure-8 mic, to piggy back on my 416.
I got a problem though. Im recording on to a Fostex FR-2, which has no M/S decoding. I wont be able to monitor the M/S signal corretly.
Any of you know og a hardware unit (preferable small, and on batteries) which will make me able to do this?
I was thinking about this one: Peter Engh - Sound Recording Interface Products but dont know if it will do the job?

Thanks alot for helping out:)

Best wishes,

Mikkel

Matty Muir · 29th November 2009, 10:14 PM

That certainly looks like the one. I've never used it but, in theory, that's what it's supposed to do. Let me know if it works.

MM

John Willett · 30th November 2009, 12:31 PM

It will *not* do what you want it to do - sorry, it's not really suitable.

It's a transformer box that does MS conversion at line level - the only way you can use it for monitoring from an FR-2 is to connect it to the line-outs and then to a separate headphone amplifier.

You *could* use it with a Graham Slee Voyager. Use XLR / XLR cables from the FR-2 to the Sonic Orbit - then XLR / inoi-jack lead to the Voyager and monitor there.

Personally, I have an Audio Developments box for this - but it was discontinued a few years ago.

MATTI · 30th November 2009, 01:44 PM

Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15

Matti

Pindebraende · 30th November 2009, 02:35 PM

Hi all

Thanks alot for helping me out!
That MS15 looks like the thing I need.
Just emailed Pearl.

Thanks again.

Best wishes,

Mikkel

MATTI · 30th November 2009, 03:56 PM

John Willett · 30th November 2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATTI

Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15

Matti

Direct Link

Looks very interesting - I was going to do a search for such things but have not yet had the time.

MATTI · 30th November 2009, 05:00 PM

Or make your own, Sowter Type 8392

Matti

John Willett · 30th November 2009, 05:03 PM

THIS looks perfect - but it says "not available at present" - may be worth contacting them, though, especially as it has an adjustable width control.

MATTI · 30th November 2009, 05:12 PM

AEA knows MS

Matti

John Willett · 30th November 2009, 05:22 PM

Got it!

THIS is what you need.

Headphone amplifier, battery powered, complete with MS switch.

Plug into the line-outs of the FR-2 for perfect monitoring.

The FR-2's headphone amp is pretty poor and was designed for lowest battery consumption - this will by-pass the internal amp and give you a decent headphone amp. with MS monitoring.

The Pearl unit mentioned earlier is just an in-line transformer to use with the existing headphone amp.

I hope this helps.

Pindebraende · 30th November 2009, 08:59 PM

Thanks alot John. I´ll check it out:)

Best wishes,

Mikkel

29th November 2009, 10:10 PM	#1
Pindebraende Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 212	M/S monitoring on a FR-2? Hi all Im planning on getting the fairly new Ambient Emesser figure-8 mic, to piggy back on my 416. I got a problem though. Im recording on to a Fostex FR-2, which has no M/S decoding. I wont be able to monitor the M/S signal corretly. Any of you know og a hardware unit (preferable small, and on batteries) which will make me able to do this? I was thinking about this one: Peter Engh - Sound Recording Interface Products but dont know if it will do the job? Thanks alot for helping out:) Best wishes, Mikkel

30th November 2009, 12:31 PM	#3
John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 2,022	It will not do what you want it to do - sorry, it's not really suitable. It's a transformer box that does MS conversion at line level - the only way you can use it for monitoring from an FR-2 is to connect it to the line-outs and then to a separate headphone amplifier. You could use it with a Graham Slee Voyager. Use XLR / XLR cables from the FR-2 to the Sonic Orbit - then XLR / inoi-jack lead to the Voyager and monitor there. Personally, I have an Audio Developments box for this - but it was discontinued a few years ago. __________________ John Willett Circle Sound Services President - Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons (and lots more - please look at my Profile)

30th November 2009, 05:03 PM	#9
John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 2,022	THIS looks perfect - but it says "not available at present" - may be worth contacting them, though, especially as it has an adjustable width control. Attached Thumbnails __________________ John Willett Circle Sound Services President - Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons (and lots more - please look at my Profile)

30th November 2009, 05:22 PM	#11
John Willett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 2,022	Got it! THIS is what you need. Headphone amplifier, battery powered, complete with MS switch. Plug into the line-outs of the FR-2 for perfect monitoring. The FR-2's headphone amp is pretty poor and was designed for lowest battery consumption - this will by-pass the internal amp and give you a decent headphone amp. with MS monitoring. The Pearl unit mentioned earlier is just an in-line transformer to use with the existing headphone amp. I hope this helps. Attached Thumbnails __________________ John Willett Circle Sound Services President - Fédération Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons (and lots more - please look at my Profile)

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29th November 2009, 10:14 PM	#2
Matty Muir Gear Head Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 58	That certainly looks like the one. I've never used it but, in theory, that's what it's supposed to do. Let me know if it works. MM

30th November 2009, 01:44 PM	#4
MATTI Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 1,712	Trew Audio: Links > Pearl MS 15 Matti

30th November 2009, 02:35 PM	#5
Pindebraende Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 212	Hi all Thanks alot for helping me out! That MS15 looks like the thing I need. Just emailed Pearl. Thanks again. Best wishes, Mikkel

30th November 2009, 03:56 PM	#6
MATTI Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 1,712

30th November 2009, 05:00 PM	#8
MATTI Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 1,712	Or make your own, Sowter Type 8392 Matti

30th November 2009, 05:12 PM	#10
MATTI Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 1,712	AEA knows MS Matti

30th November 2009, 08:59 PM	#12
Pindebraende Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 212	Thanks alot John. I´ll check it out:) Best wishes, Mikkel

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