Anyone used the new Presonus Live Mixer?

Thomas W. Bethe · 24th November 2009, 03:08 PM

I just saw this at GC PreSonus seems like it would be great for live recording. Anyone have any experience with this unit??? Thanks in advance for any information or thoughts.

bishopthomas · 24th November 2009, 07:27 PM

A friend of mine who does live sound just bought one yesterday. I haven't seen it yet and last I talked to him he was on his way back from picking it up. I'm sure he stayed up all night playing with it so I'll let you know his opinions. But I can tell you his reasoning for buying it: cheap, small, all the normal benefits from digital, in the same realm as an O1V but not as clunky and more features. Now, he's not recording with it so I can't comment on the sound quality - that's not why he bought it. The best price around was from Sound Productions in Dallas, TX.

Larry Elliott · 24th November 2009, 07:56 PM

Tom

I used one for a folk/jazz group recently. Very convenient and well thought out. Used the main output to feed the PA and recorded the firewire outs of each channel The supplied recording application worked well. All in all I think it is excellent value for money.

Larry

BFSound · 24th November 2009, 08:19 PM

I wish i had one to play with ! I found one when looking on my local classifieds that was really cheap only a month old and came with lots of extras. So i looked into them and man are they cool. You can link up to 4 together to create a 54 channel digital board for 8k new! All the firmware updates they have now. the sub group routing options are sweet when linked. One board becomes the master the other the salve board.

LX3 · 25th November 2009, 12:14 AM

I'm not in the market for the desk, but the recording software looks great. I've heard that Presonus have vague plans to develop it into a more comprehensive purpose-designed live recording application. Hope so. And if posting this here helps encourage them to make it happen (hi Rick

), then great.

They're already making a bit of an impression with Studio One it seems.

Tommy-boy · 27th November 2009, 05:12 AM

Looks like a neat mixer. Since everything hits the A/D converter very early in the signal path - my question is - how good are the converters? If they suck, then the mixer will suck. If they're decent converters, then it look like an appealing mixer.

pkautzsch · 27th November 2009, 01:20 PM

How about backup recorders? I don't see ADAT outputs which would be the most convenient way.

Thomas W. Bethe · 27th November 2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkautzsch

How about backup recorders? I don't see ADAT outputs which would be the most convenient way.

It has DB-25s for direct outs on all the channels. So you could go into what ever you wanted as a backup.

If you have questions the manual can be downloaded from their site. Here is the web address PreSonus

**Remoteness** · 28th November 2009, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishopthomas

A friend of mine who does live sound just bought one yesterday. I haven't seen it yet and last I talked to him he was on his way back from picking it up. I'm sure he stayed up all night playing with it so I'll let you know his opinions. But I can tell you his reasoning for buying it: cheap, small, all the normal benefits from digital, in the same realm as an O1V but not as clunky and more features. Now, he's not recording with it so I can't comment on the sound quality - that's not why he bought it. The best price around was from Sound Productions in Dallas, TX.

Thomas,

What was Sound Productions' best price?

I'm seriously considering getting a couple of these puppies.

pcoates · 28th November 2009, 10:57 PM

I bought this unit 2 months ago at GC with a very nice road case. The unit and case out the door was $1,800.

I own a Gospel record label and will use the unit for recording live performances. I have a macbook pro (using logic) along with an Alesis HD24 to record the session. The Studiolive comes with a recording software package called Capture. Literally after launching the program, there are 4 mouse clicks and you can record all channels. Later you can export into most any program for editing. Although the unit has 16 slider, you have 23 inputs, along with a high pass filter, compressor, limiter, expander gate, 4 band semi-parametric EQ and reverb all assignable to any channel using their "Fat Channel" feature.

There are some great videos on Presus's website and on Youtube. This is a great unit for the money and is very quiet. I would highly recommend it.

My next challenge is to decide which mic to use to record the choirs. I've been looking at the AKG 414's. I'm open to any suggestions for good high quality vocal mics for recording lead and background vocals.

This is my first post, so be nice!

Thanks,
Phillip

**Remoteness** · 29th November 2009, 01:05 AM

Welcome to the forum Phillip.

Nice report for your first post.

Please consider starting a new thread about your next challenge or you can click on the various popular tags or search through the many choir mic threads we have in this forum.

This really isn't the right thread to start discussing choir mics and such.

I look forward to reading more posts from you in the coming months ahead.

funkymunk · 30th November 2009, 02:51 AM

Hey Phillip, thanks for posting your comments. Was also curious like a previous poster about the preamps. What do they sound like?

Larry Elliott · 30th November 2009, 04:17 AM

The project I used one for was in a folk club with an audience so it was not a pristine venue by any means. However, I was very happy with the end result, that has now been released and the DVD is in the final stage of editing.

Larry

Gilli C · 30th November 2009, 10:05 PM

Hey Larry, just realised you are from Auckland - I think you know my husband Andy Craig... ?

Gilli

Larry Elliott · 30th November 2009, 10:55 PM

Sure Do! Very Well

Gilli C · 1st December 2009, 03:00 AM

Thought so!

come up to our workshop for a cup of tea next time you are in Wellington !!

Gilli

bishopthomas · 21st January 2010, 10:06 AM

Apparently there is a 24 channel version now...

Thomas W. Bethe · 21st January 2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishopthomas

Apparently there is a 24 channel version now...

Announced at NAMM PreSonus Unveils StudioLive 24.4.2 Digital Mixer - PreSonus - 2010-01-15 | Harmony-Central.com

PreSonus

Here is the cost PreSonus StudioLive 24.4.2 24-Channel Live Performance & Recording Digital Mixer | RMCAudioDirect

The 16 input cost approximately $125 per channel while the 24 input cost approximately $137 per channel. FWIW

bishopthomas · 21st January 2010, 05:24 PM

I did notice the huge price jump, and it's too bad. Kind of puts it in league with a used LS9-16 (add an 8 channel preamp and you're at 24 channels). Only the LS9 has graphics on all the outputs, motorized faders, expandable with MY cards... My friend who recently bought the StudioLive 16 is now selling it to get the 24. I'm sure I'll check it out once he gets it so I'll report back.

Murton · 22nd January 2010, 02:19 AM

I doubt a used LS9-16 would drop in value enough to go down to the value of a new StudioLive 24. A new LS9-16 here is $9500 retail, had for $5995 street price if you know people, $8000 street if you don't, the StudioLive is around $4000, I'd doubt the LS9-16 would get as low as that.

24th November 2009, 03:08 PM	#1
Thomas W. Bethe Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oberlin, Ohio Posts: 1,541	Anyone used the new Presonus Live Mixer? I just saw this at GC PreSonus seems like it would be great for live recording. Anyone have any experience with this unit??? Thanks in advance for any information or thoughts. __________________ -TOM- Thomas W. Bethel Managing Director Acoustik Musik, Ltd. Room with a View Productions Oberlin, OH 44074 www.acoustikmusik.com Doing what you love is freedom. Loving what you do is happiness.

25th November 2009, 12:14 AM	#5
LX3 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 700	I'm not in the market for the desk, but the recording software looks great. I've heard that Presonus have vague plans to develop it into a more comprehensive purpose-designed live recording application. Hope so. And if posting this here helps encourage them to make it happen (hi Rick ), then great. They're already making a bit of an impression with Studio One it seems. __________________ Paul

27th November 2009, 01:20 PM	#7
pkautzsch Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,138	How about backup recorders? I don't see ADAT outputs which would be the most convenient way. __________________ Microphones always make me sound louder and better! -- Guitar Girl

28th November 2009, 10:57 PM	#10
pcoates Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	I have the Presonus Studio Live I bought this unit 2 months ago at GC with a very nice road case. The unit and case out the door was $1,800. I own a Gospel record label and will use the unit for recording live performances. I have a macbook pro (using logic) along with an Alesis HD24 to record the session. The Studiolive comes with a recording software package called Capture. Literally after launching the program, there are 4 mouse clicks and you can record all channels. Later you can export into most any program for editing. Although the unit has 16 slider, you have 23 inputs, along with a high pass filter, compressor, limiter, expander gate, 4 band semi-parametric EQ and reverb all assignable to any channel using their "Fat Channel" feature. There are some great videos on Presus's website and on Youtube. This is a great unit for the money and is very quiet. I would highly recommend it. My next challenge is to decide which mic to use to record the choirs. I've been looking at the AKG 414's. I'm open to any suggestions for good high quality vocal mics for recording lead and background vocals. This is my first post, so be nice! Thanks, Phillip

29th November 2009, 01:05 AM	#11
Remoteness Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 6,413	Welcome to the forum Phillip. Nice report for your first post. Please consider starting a new thread about your next challenge or you can click on the various popular tags or search through the many choir mic threads we have in this forum. This really isn't the right thread to start discussing choir mics and such. I look forward to reading more posts from you in the coming months ahead. __________________ Steve Remote AuraSonicLtd.com the home of ASL Mobile & Location Production Remoteness on the Linkedin Network Remoteness on Myspace

24th November 2009, 07:27 PM	#2
bishopthomas Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville / New Jersey Posts: 1,394	A friend of mine who does live sound just bought one yesterday. I haven't seen it yet and last I talked to him he was on his way back from picking it up. I'm sure he stayed up all night playing with it so I'll let you know his opinions. But I can tell you his reasoning for buying it: cheap, small, all the normal benefits from digital, in the same realm as an O1V but not as clunky and more features. Now, he's not recording with it so I can't comment on the sound quality - that's not why he bought it. The best price around was from Sound Productions in Dallas, TX.

24th November 2009, 07:56 PM	#3
Larry Elliott Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 197	Tom I used one for a folk/jazz group recently. Very convenient and well thought out. Used the main output to feed the PA and recorded the firewire outs of each channel The supplied recording application worked well. All in all I think it is excellent value for money. Larry

24th November 2009, 08:19 PM	#4
BFSound Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 187	I wish i had one to play with ! I found one when looking on my local classifieds that was really cheap only a month old and came with lots of extras. So i looked into them and man are they cool. You can link up to 4 together to create a 54 channel digital board for 8k new! All the firmware updates they have now. the sub group routing options are sweet when linked. One board becomes the master the other the salve board.

27th November 2009, 05:12 AM	#6
Tommy-boy Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Suburbs of Philly, PA Posts: 236	Looks like a neat mixer. Since everything hits the A/D converter very early in the signal path - my question is - how good are the converters? If they suck, then the mixer will suck. If they're decent converters, then it look like an appealing mixer.

30th November 2009, 02:51 AM	#12
funkymunk Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 74	Hey Phillip, thanks for posting your comments. Was also curious like a previous poster about the preamps. What do they sound like?

30th November 2009, 04:17 AM	#13
Larry Elliott Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 197	The project I used one for was in a folk club with an audience so it was not a pristine venue by any means. However, I was very happy with the end result, that has now been released and the DVD is in the final stage of editing. Larry

30th November 2009, 10:05 PM	#14
Gilli C Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wellington NZ Posts: 126	Hey Larry, just realised you are from Auckland - I think you know my husband Andy Craig... ? Gilli

30th November 2009, 10:55 PM	#15
Larry Elliott Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 197	Sure Do! Very Well

1st December 2009, 03:00 AM	#16
Gilli C Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wellington NZ Posts: 126	Thought so! come up to our workshop for a cup of tea next time you are in Wellington !! Gilli

21st January 2010, 10:06 AM	#17
bishopthomas Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville / New Jersey Posts: 1,394	Apparently there is a 24 channel version now...

21st January 2010, 05:24 PM	#19
bishopthomas Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville / New Jersey Posts: 1,394	I did notice the huge price jump, and it's too bad. Kind of puts it in league with a used LS9-16 (add an 8 channel preamp and you're at 24 channels). Only the LS9 has graphics on all the outputs, motorized faders, expandable with MY cards... My friend who recently bought the StudioLive 16 is now selling it to get the 24. I'm sure I'll check it out once he gets it so I'll report back.

22nd January 2010, 02:19 AM	#20
Murton Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 169	I doubt a used LS9-16 would drop in value enough to go down to the value of a new StudioLive 24. A new LS9-16 here is $9500 retail, had for $5995 street price if you know people, $8000 street if you don't, the StudioLive is around $4000, I'd doubt the LS9-16 would get as low as that.

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