High end jazz electric guitar recording

[KIDBILL]

Hi,I have to record a famous jazz guitar player here,I have access to all the gear I want(Renting gear)
Light distorded warm tone(kind of philip catherine tone:Oscar - Philip Catherine - Listen for free on Deezer )
I was thinking at royer and u67 in neve pre.What would you suggest for signal path?

[bass man]

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[KIDBILL]

your bassman is for childs not?

[studiostuff]

Originally Posted by KIDBILL

Hi,I have to record a famous jazz guitar player here,I have access to all the gear I want(Renting gear)
What do you suggest for signal path?

Well, thanks for all the information you have given us about the session. Like: what gear you have, what sort of jazz does the famous one play, what exactly are you recording for the famous one... a song... an album... a message for his answering machine...

Many famous jazz guitar players have an elaborate signal path that goes with them where ever they roam. That way they can plug into almost anything and have their sound available without relying on you.

If you don't know what you're recording and what gear the player is bringing... don't know that there's much we can tell you.

Most famous jazz guitar players will sound killer on any gear...no matter how good or bad. So, you have that working in your favor.

How 'bout a little more info from you on the session and etc...?

[henryrobinett]

Originally Posted by studiostuff

If you don't know what you're recording and what gear the player is bringing... don't know that there's much we can tell you.

Most famous jazz guitar players will sound killer on any gear...no matter how good or bad. So, you have that working in your favor.

How 'bout a little more info from you on the session and etc...?

You can't make suggestions with no data.

[KIDBILL]

Originally Posted by studiostuff

Many famous jazz guitar players have an elaborate signal path that goes with them where ever they roam. That way they can plug into almost anything and have their sound available without relying on you.

Very true!

I will record the entire album of this artist,it will be very intimate(only duo or trio).For the playing and sound it's really in the same league as Philip Catherine(see link)
I have some vintage gear here and we want to record the album in that way.

Always nice for me to get some suggestions/real experiences from others.

[Croaker]

If you have a good sounding room record them playing together live....all in one take. record a few takes of each song and let him/her pick the best ones.

Good players are the easiest to record. let them get their sound, make them feel comfortable and capture it. The preamp and mic probably wont matter that much...IMHO, you have some nice gear right?



I just recorded a really good slide guitar player for a friend of mine, he was laying down some tracks for a couple of his tunes. He had awesome tone and technique. I just put a few mics up(ribbon and dynamic) and captured it ...he loved it


should be fun, good luck

[KIDBILL]

Originally Posted by Croaker

should be fun, good luck

Oh yes
Thanks

[seanmccoy]

My experience with traditional jazz guitarists is that they generally like a dark tone, so I'd make sure I had at least one mic and preamp that are devoid of upper mid and high end hype. If it's more of a fusion guy, any and all things are possible.

[KRStudio]

Try a Beyer dynamic M380 for electric jazz guitar. It was designed for kick and bass but is stellar for electric.

[doorknocker]

Originally Posted by seanmccoy

My experience with traditional jazz guitarists is that they generally like a dark tone, so I'd make sure I had at least one mic and preamp that are devoid of upper mid and high end hype. If it's more of a fusion guy, any and all things are possible.

Coles 4038. It will even make the fusion guy sound better!

[5down1up]

Originally Posted by KIDBILL

... in the same league as Philip Catherine(see link)

Always nice for me to get some suggestions/real experiences from others.

i dont hear it on the link you posted but i always loved the hollowbodys being miced like a acoustic guitar, for the nice attack and the realness factor. cant hear aynthing special on the link ( besides that its real nice and grooves like a bad mofo ). good player, jazz guitar, small tube amp, mic + as J says, some bad reverb


aint no fusion to my ears & of course some compression never hurts stike

[waxx]

i did do an ep for a jazzguitar player (who teamed up in a trio with a drummer and contrabas) and i did it record his amp with a Beyer M130 on 60cm of the speaker (in the middle) on a Martech pre. He played a very dark sounding gibson es hollow body electric guitar on a fender princton amp and it worked very well.

the drum and the bas were in the same room while recording, but it was a big one and with some distance between and good position of the musicians so the bleed was minimal.

i didn't compress no seperate tracks, only eq, balancing and some room mic reverb (i had a M50 at disposal for this). It helped also that the band was used to balance themselves because they play a lot unreinforced in small bars and clubs.