Chinese DPAs...

[jnorman]

ran across this on lynn fuston's site. check it out.

MicW Professional Microphones

[Don S]

My guess is you have to put them up at least 15 feet to fool a DPA user! I wonder how they sound!

[goldendye]

one more chinese clones of great things - :-(

[audio ergo sum]

A "clone" is defined as an identical copy. These are probably more a "look-a-like".

[David Spearritt]

Not only mics.
Hongqi Hqd — Autoblog

[d_fu]

They don't only copy the mics...

I knew I had read the phrase "From the subtlest nuances of a solo violin..." elsewhere...

Mike, I think your future employer might want to know about this...

[wildpark]

beside the theft.

it would be interesting how now the Chinese quality,

maybe later they will launch another product with same specs but differnered (maybe better lol) lookout, too become legally on the european market.

[tenor39]

Hmmm... except for the capsule and grid (which are a direct rip-offtutt), they look different. The info on the website also says that the diaphraghms are polyester, not S/S as in the real thing.
I've passed this along to DPA, Daniel, so we'll see what comes of it.

[krs]

this does not exactly remind me of DPA

[locutus]

The caption below that supposed data graph is good too:

"Typical Free-field Frequency Response Curse of n201"

[Thomas W. Bethe]

Now if only the Chinese would start making SONTEC EQs or Fairchild 670 limiter compressors they would be on to something especially if they were able to make direct clones and sell them for a decent price. The cost of a 670 limiter is over $25,000 which is EXPENSIVE.

MTCW

[trompetfreak]

Originally Posted by locutus

The caption below that supposed data graph is good too:

"Typical Free-field Frequency Response Curse of n201"

damn...

[rumleymusic]

There are so many rip-offs of Scheops, why not DPA?

That being said, HOW DARE THEY! Come up with your own mics Beijing! We already have to deal with your crummy ribbons...

THAT being said, I am seriously interested in hearing these mics and seeing how they perform against B&K's

[memphisindie]

Don't all the manufacturers have all their stuff made in china now? How hard could it be for them to copy, heck they probably have sanctioning built into their contract for some budget knock off at some specified time period elapsing.
If not, it's more IP ripoff.

[tenor39]

Originally Posted by memphisindie

Don't all the manufacturers have all their stuff made in china now? How hard could it be for them to copy, heck they probably have sanctioning built into their contract for some budget knock off at some specified time period elapsing.
If not, it's more IP ripoff.

Not DPA. Everything is manufactured and assembled in Denmark.

[traceylarvenz]

Scheops has been the target of cheap knock offs forever. I doubt the clones eat into the sales of the real thing though. A quick look at the response curve would make any pro wince.

Tracey

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[rumleymusic]

A quick look at the response curve would make any pro wince.

Look at the scale, It is really not as bad as it appears, though it is no DPA.

[mohthom]

There's no point in there - it's a 5db rise, not 0.5db. Horrific!

[traceylarvenz]

I think he was kidding... wasn't he?

Originally Posted by mohthom

There's no point in there - it's a 5db rise, not 0.5db. Horrific!

[flober1970]

I had a price list from them and it is far from being cheap!!!

F

[rumleymusic]

There's no point in there - it's a 5db rise, not 0.5db. Horrific!

I don't know about that: check the attachment below.
(DPA 4006 with diffuse field grid.)

You can't judge the quality of a mic by the frequency response

I had a price list from them and it is far from being cheap!!!

$690 for the 4006 rip-off

$790 for the HD model with a flat response to 20kHz

$850 for the model that goes to 70kHz

Not cheap, but if the mics are decent, then the price isn't so bad

PS: Not defending the mics or anything, just stating that a steep rise in the high register is very common and usually desirable in distant micing applications.

[just.sounds]

They use nickel as diafragm material wich is different. Only Gefell does this also to my knowledge.

Maybe it has something to do with the "standard" measurement microphone dimentions B&K invented that they look a lot like DPA. because the company makes also (BSWA) rather interesting measurement products.

[mljung]

Originally Posted by just.sounds

They use nickel as diafragm material wich is different.
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Different from what? Many DPA's like the 4006 use nickel diaphragms.
But maybe this was what you meant...!?


::
Mads

[7rojo7]

The Neumann K56 had nickel, one of my all time favorites

[jnorman]

right right - the top end gefell SDCs (295s and 296s) use nickel diaphragms, and they are pretty spectacular.

[Tomer1]

Has anyone tried these?
Im thinking of getting one of the E series omnis,
They seem like good if not better alternative to the Avenson STO-2.
Pricing is about 190E\250$ ...

[audibell]

While I'm disappointed to see Full Compass carry these in today's catalog, I'm not really surprised. Do I want a Mercedes, an Audi, a Toyota or a Lada. They all get you there but is there more to it than that? My experience with German stuff generally is that the metals used are always of high quality so when you tighten and loosen, threads don't strip. I've seen battered and dented schoeps and like AKG, they seem to skimp on the stand clips by not putting a brass thread inside the 5/8 27tpi orifice so I use Atlas adaptors.

But I have heard extraordinary "dig" out of the schoeps that I haven't with km184s. Like the gefell but different color. Oktavas get the job done but with less felicity. So while these Behringer-like B&Ks will probably do in a pinch, they'll probably have thread issues, higher noise floor and lower quality fit & finish.

For those who can accept that, away you go. I keep being reminded of the capitalist selling the rope which is then used to hang him. I, too, despair at the cost of anything Manley or Millennia but grown-up tools just aren't cheaply built.
WalterT

[rumleymusic]

I saw these at NAMM in January. The company reps and presentation of the mics didn't instill much confidence in me. One test of my voice in the cheap headphones through the crummy mixer was enough to make me walk away disappointed. I wouldn't buy them myself.

[soundpuretodd]

Originally Posted by locutus

"Typical Free-field Frequency Response Curse of n201"

This is freaking priceless.

[Gaston69]

It's scary that almost everything comes from the Far East and wonder what effect this will have in the long run for the European and American economy.

It's almost impossible for a western company not to have stuff made in China in order to compete, I try to be aware of this and buy as much as possible European products such like DPA, Schoeps, Crookwood, Nagra, Audient, Amek (unfortunatly died).

I wouldn't be surprised if we will start working for them in the future (Chinese companies), myself currently working in the Middle East due to the financial crisis we had 2 years ago or are we still in a bad shape?