beyerdynamic M160s for drum overheads!

[Remoteness]

As many of you folks know, I've been using M160s for drum overheads for decades, so you know where I stand with regard to these killer mics.

I've noticed that many of you are now using or considering using these wonderful mics for your drum capture.

How many of you started using M160s post the start of the Remote Possibilities forum, (or Gearslutz for that matter) and of course how many used them pre this forum?

I remember when very few were even interested is using these mics for drum OHs.
I am curious why it has become so popular as of late.

[soundbarnfool]

I've been using them for a couple of years now, in conjunction with a 77DX in the Glynn Johns configuration. Sounds really big and natural (with the right drummer, of course). I came to the conclusion to try them on my own, but it was gratifying to see others coming to the same conclusions...

Inglewood SoundBarn

[Remoteness]

Very cool.

I heard about them way back when as one of the many Nashville recording tricks.

How did you hear about them?

Originally Posted by soundbarnfool

I've been using them for a couple of years now, in conjunction with a 77DX in the Glynn Johns configuration. Sounds really big and natural (with the right drummer, of course). I came to the conclusion to try them on my own, but it was gratifying to see others coming to the same conclusions...

Inglewood SoundBarn

[nigel saunders]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

As many of you folks know, I've been using M160s for drum overheads for decades, so you know where I stand with regard to these killer mics.

I've noticed that many of you are now using or considering using these wonderful mics for your drum capture.

How many of you started using M160s post the start of the Remote Possibilities forum, (or Gearslutz for that matter) and of course how many used them pre this forum?

I remember when very few were even interested is using these mics for drum OHs.
I am curious why it has become so popular as of late.

Hi
I love them on guitars but when I A/B them against my go to overheads RODE NT1 I always end up using the Rode.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
cheers

[doorknocker]

A few years ago, I started out with a pair of KM 184s for OHs, not bad but they sounded too smeary and glassy to my ears. I also had a pair of KM 84s later but they also didn't really knock me out on drums (or anything else for that matter, though they were always 'good')

I'm sure that Gearslutz was a reason for me to get a pair of M160s but even more so the fact that engineers like Eddie Kramer and Andy Johsn kept mentioning these mics.

I love the on OHs and distorted guitar cabs and practically always put them through a Chandler TG-2.

[dangoudie]

I've found them more useful through API's as stereo room mics as they really capture the crispness of a kit in a good room.

I tend to prefer either SE z5600a's, AKG 414 ULS's or Coles 4038s for OH

[leddy]

I bought an M160/M130 combo a few years ago after reading about them here and elsewhere. I've since bought another M160.

[JD Latorre]

I was looking into adding more ribbons to my mic locker about six months ago and I spent a lot of time reading here (on all the GS forums) about what people liked and didn't. At the time it seemed like I found several posts saying the M 160s were good for drum overs, and more importantly I'm not sure I found a single negative post about the mics in general. I'm sure there are some out there that I missed, but it seemed like the Beyers have a much higher satisfaction percentage than a lot of stuff.

Josephson C 42s were my main over head pair for drums before the beyers. Don't get me wrong, I like the C 42s as mid-range SDCs go, but I think they are overly bright around 4-6kHz IMHO and God help you if you have a drummer that is heavy on the cymbals . I had this college band come in once and the drummer had this little 6 inch "color" cymbal that he loved to hit at what he thought were artistic moments in each tune (about every other bar). The Josephson's grabbed that sound like a dog with a bone--sometimes, late at night I still hear it.....

The Beyers are much smoother, take EQ much better, and are more forgiving of a bad room I think. I got a great deal from Sweetwater--two for about 1100.00--and that's the anniversary edition with the wood boxes and shock mounts.

The more ribbons I get, the less often my SDCs ever see the light of day.

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by nigel saunders

Hi
I love them on guitars but when I A/B them against my go to overheads RODE NT1 I always end up using the Rode.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
cheers

I don't think you're doing anything wrong.
I think it's more about the positioning.
I bet your RODE mics sound better in the placement you're using.

[nigel saunders]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

I don't think you're doing anything wrong.
I think it's more about the positioning.
I bet your RODE mics sound better in the placement you're using.

Cheers
Yes I'm using the recorderman method.
Maybe X/Y would work better with the 160's?
Thanks

[Remoteness]

How about the Remote-man method?

It works well for me!

Originally Posted by nigel saunders

Cheers
Yes I'm using the recorderman method.
Maybe X/Y would work better with the 160's?
Thanks

[t_chance]

It's all your fault Steve that I'm getting better drum mix using these.

[fifthcircle]

Where's the choice for haven't had a chance to try them, but want to?



--Ben

[talbe1019]

Originally Posted by fifthcircle

Where's the choice for haven't had a chance to try them, but want to?



--Ben

I agree too!

[soundbarnfool]

I actually don't even remember where I heard about them first. I know I love my particular 77DX that I got from Media Sound on just about everything and decided to get some M160s and M130s a couple of years ago to try them on various things. They seemed like a really natural choice for the Glynn Johns drum thing...

Inglewood SoundBarn

[Svens]

Dont know about the Beyers, but Jordan, you have a nice studio

[soundbarnfool]

Well thanks. Stop by when in Nashville...


Inglewood SoundBarn

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by t_chance

It's all your fault Steve that I'm getting better drum mix using these.

Damn, I should have kept my mouth shut.

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by soundbarnfool

Well thanks. Stop by when in Nashville...


Inglewood SoundBarn

I love the 4311s you have in the CRM.

I miss my pair from back in the day.

[thedoner]

Originally Posted by fifthcircle

Where's the choice for haven't had a chance to try them, but want to?



--Ben

Damn. Saw this thread one day too late. I was tracking today and have access to a pair...I would have tried them. It never occured to me to use them for OH's.
Do you have any pic/clips of them in this app. Steve? How do you like to position them, and for what styles of music?
-GD

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by thedoner

Damn. Saw this thread one day too late. I was tracking today and have access to a pair...I would have tried them. It never occured to me to use them for OH's.
Do you have any pic/clips of them in this app. Steve? How do you like to position them, and for what styles of music?
-GD

I've used them for all sorts of music styles from Jazz to pop to R&B to hard rock and beyond.

I always place them straight down over the kit.
Each mic is focused in between drums and cymbals equally.

There are quite a few photos showing the mic placement within this forum.

Here are a few links for you to go through and check out:

Remote at the Blue Note!!!

"Discovered" at the Dell Lounge... What a Spectacle!

Francisco Mela live at the Blue Note Jazz Club.

Donald Harrison's Heroes featuring Billy Cobham & Ron Carter

You will have to sift through the threads to find the pictures, but they are there for your review.

[thedoner]

Thanks for the links Steve. They do sound great...can't wait to give them a try!

[7rojo7]

Steve Burgh had 3 260s that I ended up using a lot, back in 92. I now own 3 260s.

[Remoteness]

Steve Burgh had a lot of nice toys.

[Fuzzy Logic]

wow, steve burg. i do miss that guy!

[Remoteness]

So, we have 20 votes and most folks heard about them (for OHs) on GS.

Anybody else care to chime in and vote on this poll?

[nigel saunders]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

I've used them for all sorts of music styles from Jazz to pop to R&B to hard rock and beyond.

I always place them straight down over the kit.
Each mic is focused in between drums and cymbals equally.

There are quite a few photos showing the mic placement within this forum.

Here are a few links for you to go through and check out:

Remote at the Blue Note!!!

"Discovered" at the Dell Lounge... What a Spectacle!

Francisco Mela live at the Blue Note Jazz Club.

Donald Harrison's Heroes featuring Billy Cobham & Ron Carter

You will have to sift through the threads to find the pictures, but they are there for your review.

Hi
Just used the configuration in the photos- just brilliant!
thanks

[gareth.h.rees]

I haven't bought them yet, but I will be purchasing a pair of m160's for overheads directly because of the posts in this forum

Gareth

[Remoteness]

Gareth,

You will be very happy with that purchase!

I really want a few more of these puppies, but I have to hold off due to the massive build out project I'm about to start this month!

[Remoteness]

How would you vote today?