beyerdynamic M160s for drum overheads!

[cyjanopan]

Exactly the same, still don`t like them I suppose I am one of two people on earth that have and don`t use them. Oh well ...
Please tell me how do you pan them in mix ? Hard left and right ? I tried them in configuration based on photos which you shared, and after panning to get nice wide mix I ended up with snare mostly in one channel. On every photo I found one of overheads is always around hihat/snare so I can`t imagine that the snare would be anywhere in the middle. Maybe the middle condenser mic is the key.

[king2070lplaya]

Originally Posted by cyjanopan

Exactly the same, still don`t like them I suppose I am one of two people on earth that have and don`t use them. Oh well ...
Please tell me how do you pan them in mix ? Hard left and right ? I tried them in configuration based on photos which you shared, and after panning to get nice wide mix I ended up with snare mostly in one channel. On every photo I found one of overheads is always around hihat/snare so I can`t imagine that the snare would be anywhere in the middle. Maybe the middle condenser mic is the key.

While a middle mic on the kit is nice, it isn't necessary to get a good sound. If you place the stereo mics so that they are equidistant from the snare, then you will have a balanced center snare. This can be tricky but is not impossible, and isn't essential either.

I personally love these mics for DRUMS, not just for overheads. These are some of my favorite 1 mic-on-a-kit microphones.

[Remoteness]

Hey, I can dig it; a lot of folks don't like some of the mics and gear I use, but it hasn't stopped me from getting the sound I (want) like.

Hey, I'll buy your unused M160s if they're in good condition.
Let me know if you want to get rid of those mikages and I make it so!

FYI, I usually pan them hard left and right and I'm pleased with the results.
Sometimes I pan them in a bit, but it really depends on how I want things to sit (fit) in the mix.

If you're getting snare mostly in one channel, perhaps you haven't raised them up over the kit enough. I like to place them as high as possible.

Originally Posted by cyjanopan

Exactly the same, still don`t like them I suppose I am one of two people on earth that have and don`t use them. Oh well ...
Please tell me how do you pan them in mix ? Hard left and right ? I tried them in configuration based on photos which you shared, and after panning to get nice wide mix I ended up with snare mostly in one channel. On every photo I found one of overheads is always around hihat/snare so I can`t imagine that the snare would be anywhere in the middle. Maybe the middle condenser mic is the key.

[cyjanopan]

Maybe height is the problem, or I`m just used to XY configuration with strong snare in the middle and almost no close mics... Unfortunately I can`t sell them, they are property of place where I work, and it is public/state company so I suppose they`ll stay there forever. No problem, I`ll just try to find some place for them, I kinda like them as room mics when condenser microphone is too bright and flat.

[Jim Williams]

I prefer transformer-less AKG 460B's or 414 B-ULS. I get the best definition with those and the lowest THD too. I'm very picky about cymbal tone, it must sound live and real, not recorded and processed. In that regard, they capture cymbals with every tap sounding different and with a great player, it's a dance.

For rockers and bashers, them 160's would be a good choice. Fortunatly, I don't have to work for those folks.

[Remoteness]

Jim, this is a thread (and poll) about the beyerdynamic M160 microphone.

Let's stay focused on the M160 and its poll!

In any event, I too am very picky about my drum (not just cymbal) tone; detailed definition is paramount to me, but I somehow make the M160s work.

Furthermore, I do a fair amount of jazz recordings with those M160s and I find them a good choice for me. I've also used them on country pop records, gospel recordings and such and I like how they sound on my recordings.

So, for good or for bad, let us keep the discussion on track.

Okay?

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

I prefer transformer-less AKG 460B's or 414 B-ULS. I get the best definition with those and the lowest THD too. I'm very picky about cymbal tone, it must sound live and real, not recorded and processed. In that regard, they capture cymbals with every tap sounding different and with a great player, it's a dance.

For rockers and bashers, them 160's would be a good choice. Fortunatly, I don't have to work for those folks.