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i'm curious, because this ensemble with yo yo and itzhak perlman sounds fantastic!! kudos
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Munich, Germany
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Indeed a good job that is. Seen a TLM 103. --> Must have been Steve |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Germany
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Also saw some Earthworks mics, I think... They should have practised that oath of office beforehand, though... |
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| Lives for gear | It seemed a struggle between the Chief Justice and the President to see who was in charge. ;o)
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| Gear Head Joined: Nov 2008
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LOL, i was also on the lookout for gear!
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles
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Didn't see a TLM 103 in there, but I did see the Earthworks and a TLM 170... There were major sound issues on the ABC broadcast- bad enough that I left for NBC which seemed better. The mix of the Marine band was really bad for much of the broadcast and the sync was going off by as much as 0.5 seconds. Not sure about the broadcast, but the sound from much of what the Marine band does is handled in house by their full time engineer. --Ben |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville, TN
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ditto! I was blown away by how good the quartet sounded (on NBC)! Nice arrangement too.
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| Gear addict Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Netherlands
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| My thoughts too. The ensemble sounded great, also the Marine choir here on TV in the Netherlands.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey USA
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Germany
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I somehow eneded up watching a UK broadcast (Sky News), and the sound was good. Obviously, some reverb was added (well audible on the clarinet - BTW, who was the clarinet player, hadn't heard his name). Quote:
[EDIT]Just saw it again - it was the CJ who wrongly placed the word "faithfully" at the end of the second line (instead of "faithfully execute"). He also said "president to the US"... Seems Obama noticed and paused to give the CJ an opportunity to correct himself... Let's hope the presidency isn't rendered invalid by an incorrectly executed oath of office... | |
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| Gear addict Joined: May 2004
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I missed most of the music, but I did notice that his speech sounded stellar even over MSNBC.com's stuttering player. -Dan. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles
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Anthony McGill... He's a young star in the clarinet world. He is the principal clarinetist of the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra, teaches at Peabody Conservatory, and winner of a Avery Fisher Career Grant --Ben | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Earth
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| I didn't hear the piano well. The national anthem in the end sounded awful, needed a little reverb and better mic placement. Also the speeches sounded dry and transported the atmosphere of isolation. Some more atmosphere would have made for a better sonic representation of the connection to the hundreds of thousands of people that were there in this huge place. Didn't happen sonically.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Germany
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My 5-year-old daughter strongly disliked Aretha Franklin's singing... Guess she prefers classical, her mom's a soprano... Daniel | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Chestertown MD USA
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I'm going to guess Clair Bros. They did Chicago: Coppermine Photo Gallery - Obama - Chicago I saw it on CNN and I thought it was fantastic. The clarinet and the piano were a little low for me but still well done. Aretha Franklin sounded great! It did sound a bit dry, but for broadcast it may have been best that way. On CNN they left the audience reaction up a little long one time and you could hear the echo caused by the delays. Very strange. |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2008
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Hi American friends On the issue of sync with the music, I don't know how you guys do it but certainly state events in which I have involved with for the BBC usually have the military band music prerecorded so they march to playback - therefore you won't necessarily see any mics because they are not recording anything. It will be coming out of the PA for those in attendance and the bandleader will have in ear monitor - sorry to shatter any illusions - I hope I won't be sent to the tower for breaking confidence. Matt |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Sound company for the Inauguration: Obama inaugural is dream job for Baltimore sound company -- baltimoresun.com To me, the mics for the quartet seemed to be too far away to pick up as well as they did. The Earthworks mic appeared to be about three feet in front of the violin. The Neuman in front of the cello seemed to be almost equal distant from the violin and clarinet. I'm surprised they got much separation from those mics and surprised that the ambient sound was not any louder. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2004
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I like this quote : " The primary microphone into which Obama will deliver his inaugural address is among the most important and expensive items in Maryland Sound's inventory," Uhm.....yeah. Looked like the standard 2x SM-57 arrangement to me. WT
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I was so excited to see that Earthworks mic! I don't know why - I was just happy to tell someone "hey, I have some of those ". They did sound very good.Anyone else bust out laughing at the end of Aretha's solo when feedback suddenly burst out?! |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: New York Friggin' City
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MSI did the live sound, though I saw Firehouse F12 monitors everywhere, not MSI's brand. I don't know which truck did the broadcast, who the audio mixer and who the music mixer were for broadcast. With this many elements, I expect there were several mixers involved in the broadcast feed. I expect we'll see some tech specs in the upcoming months on who mixed what. Clair won bids for the *ten* of the parties (inaugural balls, as they call them I was impressed that you could hear the slap from the audience all the way at the mall responding seconds later after the nearfield audience to the content. Seemed to me that the ambient mics were too few, or that one pair was too close and the others too far. It's very easy for us to "armrest quarterback" or "backseat drive" compared to the guys who obviously pulled off a pretty good job for a major one-off with little to no rehearsal. Does anyone know what specific cello was used? Yo-Yo Ma had talked in advance about using a carbon fiber cello instead of his $2million piece for this weather, and what we saw today looked pretty darn new. If it was carbon fiber or his "spare" I'd be interested to know. I mixed Perlman's quartet for 9/11 memorial and I thought they managed to get a passable representation without hearing any of the PA in the mix, not an easy thing to pull off. I'd love to know what it sounded like up close. | |
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| Gear addict Joined: Jun 2008
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Hey, Check out this thread: In defense of live on air mix engineers! I think it is very appropriate before this one gets a little brutal. G |
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Yeah I didn't mean to say that I could do it better or anything, I just thought it was funny. I hate live mixing, so I'll stick with recording! |
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| Gearslutz.com admin | Quote:
Hey! Loose chads one year, incorrectly executed oath of office the next - wadda ya gonna do? The woman speaker did her bit great. I really enjoyed the classical piece despite the rather 'uphill' mix and Aretha too - re feedback I thought I saw her drop her hand holding the mic and point it right at the monitor wedges right after she stopped..
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Chestertown MD USA
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I should have guessed MSI since I live in MD. Yeah those mics looked like standard VIP 57s to me, but who knows. I didn't hear any feedback on CNN. Everything sounded very "close miced" to me. A little clipping at the very beginning maybe. Nice job overall. |
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| Gear Guru Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA
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I was just amazed that Yo Yo Ma didn't appear to read any music at all. Everyone else appeared to be reading. That's what I was amazed at. And John Williams' arrangement was wonderful.
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| Gear addict Joined: Dec 2005
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I wasn't that crazy about the Williams piece, but I am biased as a composer. It did have some nice moments, though. What struck me was the instrumentation: e.g., Messiaen's Quatour. I wonder if there was any meaning behind that? Talk about an instrumentation so closely associated with despair, hope, and transcendence in the darkest of times. Perhaps a little commentary only us true music geeks would pick-up on? |
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| Lives for gear |
I also noticed that. I was actually hoping they'd play Messiaen's piece as I love his work (and "Quartet for the End of Time" sounds so much more appropriate in our current economic climate ).
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| Gear Guru Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Hm. As I said I really liked the arrangement. But it wasn't really Williams' composition. It was based on Copland's Appalachian Spring and his, Copland's, adoption of an old Shaker song. But you knew that . . .
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| Gear nut |
I Played the Luncheon today in the capital (I was pretty amazing). The sound inside was hideous. It looked like they were using a passport for reinforcement (it wasn't, but it looked like it!).
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