Old 5th January 2009
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Question Sennheiser Shotgun Identification

I have this 70s or 80s vintage Sennheiser Shotgun that has no marking on it. I have attached a picture, and as you can tell it is not a 416 like everyone expects it to be.

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Old 5th January 2009
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Don't know the exact name, but I think this is an electret mic - no MKH at all.
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One of the “budget” range units with changeable capsules. I have a pair of the “omnis”. Ok but not fantastic. As you say definitely not a 416

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ME 80 with K3 preamp module, nowadays similiar electret would be
ME 66 / K6 combination.

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Thanks Matti. Did some searches for that model, and it matches up. Mystery solved!
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We used Mkh 415 and 815 back then but indebended producers used ME 80
and similiar for documentaries

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ME80/K3U is a decent short shotgun. They aren't as silent or wonderful as a 416, but they are great workhorses, and keep on rollin'.

Enjoy!
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ME 80 with K3 preamp module, nowadays similiar electret would be
ME 66 / K6 combination.
This is correct.

It was replaced by the K6 when Mercury battreies (which the K3 uses) became illegal.

However. there are now expensive non-Mercury batteries available of this size.

But please note that the K3U can also be phantom powered - you can cut a short section from dowling to use as a dummy battery - dummey battery was only really needed on the earlier versions, it helps keep a good contact between the capsule and powering module.
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This is correct.

It was replaced by the K6 when Mercury battreies (which the K3 uses) became illegal.

However. there are now expensive non-Mercury batteries available of this size.

But please note that the K3U can also be phantom powered - you can cut a short section from dowling to use as a dummy battery - dummey battery was only really needed on the earlier versions, it helps keep a good contact between the capsule and powering module.
SOME K3's can be phantom powered, some can not. Make sure you check to make sure you have the K3 that can be phantom or battery powered.
You will love this mic. It was voted best Shotgun in the under $600 category by some magazine. I have no problem getting stuff 11 feet away with this mic. Many need the capsule replaced. Check that too.
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ME 80 with K3 preamp module, nowadays similiar electret would be
ME 66 / K6 combination.

Matti


As it was confirmed, Matti is correct.

I know the mic since I have a few of ME88s and ME80s w/ K3 preamps in my mic locker.

If I am not mistaken, my mics can be phantom powered as long as the (dummy) battery is installed within the body.
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As it was confirmed, Matti is correct.

I know the mic since I have a few of ME88s and ME80s w/ K3 preamps in my mic locker.

If I am not mistaken, my mics can be phantom powered as long as the (dummy) battery is installed within the body.
There are K3 bodies that are ONLY phantom powered.
The use of the Dummy battery is NOT required. They will phantom power without just fine.
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SOME K3's can be phantom powered, some can not.
The K3 can be phantom powered - the K30AV (unbalanced 8-pin Tuchel connector) is unbalanced and centre pin powered. The K30AV was for video cameras where the camera used to induce hum onto the transformer in the K3.
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The use of the Dummy battery is NOT required. They will phantom power without just fine.
In early versions of the K3 the spring used to go "soft" and not make proper contact with the pin of the capsule and the dummy battery was required to keep the pressure and good contact.

On later versions the spring was improved and so the dummy battery was not really needed.
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That's good news to me and my job, we have three ME80's and we power them all without the dummy. No probs.
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This mic powers just fine via Phantom. Although, I will say it is a bit more noisy than I would like. I am going to get one of those PX23 Batts to see if that will be a more quiet power source, but I doubt it will make a difference. Are there any mods anyone knows to the K3U? I can replace parts and follow schematics just fine.

I only use this mic on budget projects where I run and gun. The last couple of features I did were with rented Schoeps that were MUCH cleaner. If I land this next gig I will try to lay out the cash for one, but you know, I've only done a couple of features but I hope to do more.
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This mic powers just fine via Phantom. Although, I will say it is a bit more noisy than I would like.
Well, it was discontinued about 20 years ago
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This mic powers just fine via Phantom. Although, I will say it is a bit more noisy than I would like. I am going to get one of those PX23 Batts to see if that will be a more quiet power source, but I doubt it will make a difference. Are there any mods anyone knows to the K3U? I can replace parts and follow schematics just fine.

I only use this mic on budget projects where I run and gun. The last couple of features I did were with rented Schoeps that were MUCH cleaner. If I land this next gig I will try to lay out the cash for one, but you know, I've only done a couple of features but I hope to do more.
Noisier than an SG1X or 2?
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Noisier than an SG1X or 2?
I couldn't say, having never used either one of those.

Looks like I'm I'm on for this next feature BTW. I won't be using the KU3 as the package looks to be decent. I'll be getting a new Schoeps and just keept the KU3 around in case of catastrophe.
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I'll look into mine and see if there are any upgrades that could be done.
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doc, batteries

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