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Vibraphone recording technics?

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I have a session tomorrow and they sprung the vibraphone from Ghana on me yesterday. Never worked with one. I'm not yet sure but will find out later today if they want to track it live with the band or overdub it. I'm thinging spaced pair of earthworks omni's 2-3 feet above aiming down. Maybe adding a mic underneath in the middle as well. I don't have any PZM types. I wonder if I would need to flip the polarity if I did mic underneath and above, seems like I would. Anyway anyone have anything to add?

There is a resonator guitar too which I have not dealt with yet but feel like a dynamic in the right spot will work okay.
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Balaphone! 1 on top, 1 on the bottom or 2 on top. I like to have one mic out side the bass side closer to the keys, about a foot out and a foot above and the second towards the middle pointing at the same angle as the first mic for the top notes. You would only have to flip phase on the bottom if there are mics pointing towards each other, that might be too much though, just get closer with the top mics. I've been favoring wide carioids (schoeps ccm21) and equal angles for mallet instruments and pianos for quite some time.
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Okay, yeah I guess it is a balaphone, those are all wood right? Or wood and gourds or something like that. If we are overdubbing them I'll audition km184's but I have no schoeps to works with. I think I want to check out the earthworks on em too. Thanks! Sounds good to me.

Any other input is of course welcome.
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I'm thinging spaced pair of earthworks omni's 2-3 feet above aiming down. Maybe adding a mic underneath in the middle as well.
Why don´t you try X/Y, that´ll give give you a better stereo image and no noticeable phase problems. A pair of Neumann´s Km184 will do a nice job. Maybe u should first listen to what the performer will play, omni earthworks will give you a really different
sound than the Neumanns, but I think if the piece is made of scales and moves up and down, stay with the 184´s.


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I don't have any PZM types. I wonder if I would need to flip the polarity if I did mic underneath and above, seems like I would. Anyway anyone have anything to add?
Be carefull with the rotor. Remeber vibraphones some times, depending on model and DATE OF PURCHASE, will make a lot of noise! So this sound would be an issue in any type of recordings. Also be carefull with the pedal, it sound a lot! Maybe you sgould put a little piece of clothe between the pedal and the floor.

Hope this works for u! thumbsup
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Hi,
The best result recording vibes i got was with pair of m160 ribbons ca. 4' above the vibes in ortf (but a bit more sprad) I also used c414 under but didn't use it on this mix.
it was an over dub session on acoustic music (not jazz)
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BALAPHONE?

SORRY!

If its a BALAPHONE just forget all that I just wrote!
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The guitarist told me "vibraphone from ghana" and after rojo said balaphone it clicked that I bet thats what they have. I'll find out sometime today when I wrap up details. If we track totally live at once my only two 184's may be spoken for.
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