Passive monitors

robimusics · 12th December 2008

Hello,
I'm a musician and I have a small home studio, essentially made to record my own musics and performances.
I work with classical music, and I'm used to record on 8-16 tracks with Focusrite devices (2610) and a laptop PC.
I simply connect all the mikes to Focusrite's preamps and record all on several tracks, because I can't mix anything live (as I'm the conductor of the orchestra!)

So I always do the mixing later, at home.

In the last month I recorded my last cd (with Saint-Saen's Christmas Oratorio for soloists, choir and orchestra) and mixed & edited it with Yamaha NS10-M studio ... I found them simply amazing for classical music!
The mix and edit went wonderful, and the translation to other speakers is fantastic... I loved to work with Yamaha's.

Here's my question:
I'd like to buy NS10-M, but I couldn't find them in good conditions ... and people ask too much money (as they are super-requested) so I think nowadays they are not worth the price...
I'd like to buy some brand new passive monitors sounding like NS10 ...
I have an Audiolab 8000A amplifier, which sounds awesome for classical, so I'd prefer not to get active monitors (like HS50 or HS80).

Is there a brand new passive monitor sounding like NS10 nowadays?
Thank you

**Remoteness** · 13th December 2008

Although they do not sound anything like the NS10s, have you ever listened to the K&H 0300s?

Yes, they are active and nothing like the NS10s, but I figured I'd chime in anyway.

So, in advance if I wasted your time.

Audiop · 13th December 2008

Why don't you try to get a well designed monitor that tell you what's on your HD?

/Peter

LX3 · 13th December 2008

NS10s. I understand the appeal, but I've never really been a fan.

I don't know where you're based, but why not try and get a demo of any of the dozens of great "bookshelf" hifi speakers out there? B&Ws perhaps? Dynaudio? Spendor?

Or maybe the passive PMC monitors?

There just aren't a lot of passive monitors around these days... and virtually all small speakers are ported now, so don't really sound like an NS10 (which isn't necessarily a bad thing in my book).

But I think the hi-fi world is your friend at times like this. Heck, the NS10 was originally meant to be a hifi speaker anyway.

robimusics · 14th December 2008

Thank you for your replies.
I actually have at home and/or tried and listened monitors and hi-fi speakers like Genelec, Spendor, KRK, AR, and others, included a pair of old Celestion Ditton 66 mkII.
All of these are pretty good for listening music, which IMHO is quite different from mixing and editing.
I never tried NS10 before, and they immediately sounded great for mixing and editing, putting ahead the more problematic frequencies in the mix.
Also editing is great with NS10, they show immediately if cut points are still audible or well crossfaded.

I never would use NS10 to listen music, but I found them perfect for working on my masters.
So I was wondering if there are nowadays passive monitors like 'em...

Corran · 15th December 2008

Randomly saw this thread. You might want to check out "Studiospares" Studiospares SN10 Nearfield Monitors Pair at Studiospares. They are recreations of the original NS-10. This was posted some time ago, and I personally have no experience or knowledge of them, but they are cheap. Might be worth it to check out.

**Remoteness** · 15th December 2008

The SN-10s: Are they cheap or inexpensive monitors?
Does anyone have experience with them?

robimusics · 21st December 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remoteness

The SN-10s: Are they cheap or inexpensive monitors?
Does anyone have experience with them?

Thanks Corran and Remoteness, I quote the same question.
Studiospares SN-10 seem to be very similar to NS-10M, does anyone tried and worked with them?

lazi · 21st December 2008

don't know if you've ever heard of wharfedale monitors... i really like them.

Wharfedale 8.1 Diamond Studio Monitor Speaker Passive - eBay (item 370120933476 end time Dec-27-08 09:46:08 PST)

Wharfedale 8.2 Diamond Pro Studio Monitor Passive - eBay (item 370120933519 end time Dec-27-08 09:46:11 PST)

if you order from these guys tell em cp sent you and to throw in a set of speakon adapters.

12th December 2008	#1
robimusics Gear interested Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6 Thread Starter	Passive monitors Hello, I'm a musician and I have a small home studio, essentially made to record my own musics and performances. I work with classical music, and I'm used to record on 8-16 tracks with Focusrite devices (2610) and a laptop PC. I simply connect all the mikes to Focusrite's preamps and record all on several tracks, because I can't mix anything live (as I'm the conductor of the orchestra!) So I always do the mixing later, at home. In the last month I recorded my last cd (with Saint-Saen's Christmas Oratorio for soloists, choir and orchestra) and mixed & edited it with Yamaha NS10-M studio ... I found them simply amazing for classical music! The mix and edit went wonderful, and the translation to other speakers is fantastic... I loved to work with Yamaha's. Here's my question: I'd like to buy NS10-M, but I couldn't find them in good conditions ... and people ask too much money (as they are super-requested) so I think nowadays they are not worth the price... I'd like to buy some brand new passive monitors sounding like NS10 ... I have an Audiolab 8000A amplifier, which sounds awesome for classical, so I'd prefer not to get active monitors (like HS50 or HS80). Is there a brand new passive monitor sounding like NS10 nowadays? Thank you

13th December 2008	#2
Remoteness Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 7,405	Although they do not sound anything like the NS10s, have you ever listened to the K&H 0300s? Yes, they are active and nothing like the NS10s, but I figured I'd chime in anyway. So, in advance if I wasted your time. __________________ Steve Remote AuraSonicLtd.com the home of ASL Mobile & Location Production Remoteness on the Linkedin Network What about my Facebook Profile? Remoteness on Myspace

15th December 2008	#6
Corran Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2007 Location: South Georgia Posts: 2,929	Randomly saw this thread. You might want to check out "Studiospares" Studiospares SN10 Nearfield Monitors Pair at Studiospares. They are recreations of the original NS-10. This was posted some time ago, and I personally have no experience or knowledge of them, but they are cheap. Might be worth it to check out. __________________ www.oceanstarproductions.com

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LX3 Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,033	NS10s. I understand the appeal, but I've never really been a fan. I don't know where you're based, but why not try and get a demo of any of the dozens of great "bookshelf" hifi speakers out there? B&Ws perhaps? Dynaudio? Spendor? Or maybe the passive PMC monitors? There just aren't a lot of passive monitors around these days... and virtually all small speakers are ported now, so don't really sound like an NS10 (which isn't necessarily a bad thing in my book). But I think the hi-fi world is your friend at times like this. Heck, the NS10 was originally meant to be a hifi speaker anyway.

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robimusics Gear interested Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6 Thread Starter	Thank you for your replies. I actually have at home and/or tried and listened monitors and hi-fi speakers like Genelec, Spendor, KRK, AR, and others, included a pair of old Celestion Ditton 66 mkII. All of these are pretty good for listening music, which IMHO is quite different from mixing and editing. I never tried NS10 before, and they immediately sounded great for mixing and editing, putting ahead the more problematic frequencies in the mix. Also editing is great with NS10, they show immediately if cut points are still audible or well crossfaded. I never would use NS10 to listen music, but I found them perfect for working on my masters. So I was wondering if there are nowadays passive monitors like 'em...

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lazi Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 235	don't know if you've ever heard of wharfedale monitors... i really like them. Wharfedale 8.1 Diamond Studio Monitor Speaker Passive - eBay (item 370120933476 end time Dec-27-08 09:46:08 PST) Wharfedale 8.2 Diamond Pro Studio Monitor Passive - eBay (item 370120933519 end time Dec-27-08 09:46:11 PST) if you order from these guys tell em cp sent you and to throw in a set of speakon adapters.