Hildegard von Bingen

aracu · 10th December 2008

This is a clip from an experiment in trying to create a "natural" sound in a studio, of the 11th century composer. It's recorded in a highly sound absorbant room with a Royer sf-1a ribbon mic set to mid and a Sennheiser 800 as side mic. The ratio is 75% mid and 25% side. 2 tracks of reverb processing are added using a Bricasti, with the reverb image reduced in width.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/5/2036809/Hild.mp3

loujudson · 10th December 2008

Interesting. Somehow the verb does not sound natural or ancient to me - go listen to some actual reverberant space recordings and see how the sound is varied and not so pristine... I wouldn't narrow the verb down either.

Bt the piece is so short (and sung so fast!) that there is not time to tell really...

Lou

John Hedger · 10th December 2008

The after ring following the first sung phrase might be a bit much, but otherwise you probably could have fooled me into thinking it was recorded in a chapel or church space of some kind. Very nice!

John

butterfly · 10th December 2008

.........ooo. that vocal makes my ears hurt.......pitchy and way too much vibrato, verb sounds nice though

hanuman · 10th December 2008

Who's the singer?

aracu · 11th December 2008

Thanks for the comments.

The singer prefers to remain anonomous.

Improved processing with subtle reverb tweaks suggested by Casey of Bricasti (lower diffusion, density and VLF...increased size and modulation...higher early mix):

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...09/b.Hild2.mp3

jdtrbn · 11th December 2008

The reverb is a lot longer than what I've heard in any choir recordings. I can't quite put my finger on it but the reverb is somehow too "smooth" to sound real. Maybe even less diffusion and more lowpass in feedback? Is there high passing going on?

Cool sound by the way, I wish I had access to the reverb unit.

loujudson · 11th December 2008

Could you send me the raw voice and let me play with my Sony DSP-V77?

Lou

hanuman · 11th December 2008

Heard good things about bricasti but had better results with Hildegard in Altiverb.

zoom · 11th December 2008

yep. it sounds interesting and the bricasti is a phantastic tool, but in my opinion this music and the voices only can develop their true potential in a real surrounding with a natural reverb.
even with the best artificial reverb - the music suffers...

but this recording is suitable to compare different reverbs.

stefan

10th December 2008	#1
aracu Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 850 Thread Starter	Hildegard von Bingen This is a clip from an experiment in trying to create a "natural" sound in a studio, of the 11th century composer. It's recorded in a highly sound absorbant room with a Royer sf-1a ribbon mic set to mid and a Sennheiser 800 as side mic. The ratio is 75% mid and 25% side. 2 tracks of reverb processing are added using a Bricasti, with the reverb image reduced in width. http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/5/2036809/Hild.mp3

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John Hedger Gear maniac Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 188	The after ring following the first sung phrase might be a bit much, but otherwise you probably could have fooled me into thinking it was recorded in a chapel or church space of some kind. Very nice! John __________________ "In the mist of Sassafras, many things will come to pass"...The BubblePuppy http://www.musicmaker.org/ http://www.johnnyroy.com http://cdbaby.com/cd/jroytubtones http://johnhedger.com/

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zoom Gear nut Joined: Oct 2005 Location: bern / switzerland Posts: 146	yep. it sounds interesting and the bricasti is a phantastic tool, but in my opinion this music and the voices only can develop their true potential in a real surrounding with a natural reverb. even with the best artificial reverb - the music suffers... but this recording is suitable to compare different reverbs. stefan __________________ http://www.audiobit.ch

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butterfly Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: uk Posts: 1,279	.........ooo. that vocal makes my ears hurt.......pitchy and way too much vibrato, verb sounds nice though

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jdtrbn Gear addict Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 410	The reverb is a lot longer than what I've heard in any choir recordings. I can't quite put my finger on it but the reverb is somehow too "smooth" to sound real. Maybe even less diffusion and more lowpass in feedback? Is there high passing going on? Cool sound by the way, I wish I had access to the reverb unit.