furman power conditioners 19': 10 amp series vs 16 amp series?

fafalio · 23rd September 2008

dear friends, need a conditioner for my portable set up.
how can i make the calculation to understand what my rack (pre+ audio card and so on) need between 10 or 16 amp?
best regards,
Alessandro.

boojum · 24th September 2008

I would add the amps that each piece draws and than add 25% minimum as a safety factor. That is my amateur opinion.

Why do you need a conditioner for portable equipment? I have never used a conditioner so please tell me about what you are doing.

Thanks, grazia.

NorseHorse · 24th September 2008

I worked with a friend who had a power conditioned that read the Amps he was using. Between an interface, laptop, daul mic pre w/ phantom power, and Central Station, he was only using about 2 amps or less at any given time.

Cheers.

luigichelli · 24th September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by boojum

I would add the amps that each piece draws and than add 25% minimum as a safety factor. That is my amateur opinion.

Why do you need a conditioner for portable equipment? I have never used a conditioner so please tell me about what you are doing.

Thanks, grazia.

hi boojum, here in italy the electric power can drive you crazy, expecially when you're recording in old churches... atm i'm searching for a conditioner too! ... does anyone know if surgeX (very appreciated on GS) makes eu versions of their devices?
thanks

fafalio · 25th September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigichelli

hi boojum, here in italy the electric power can drive you crazy, expecially when you're recording in old churches... atm i'm searching for a conditioner too! ... does anyone know if surgeX (very appreciated on GS) makes eu versions of their devices?
thanks

i have seen the furman spec. it use not the mov technology but the same of surgex,the SMP (Series Multi-Stage Protection) , so in think now it is not long a patended surgex technology.
nobody confirm it?
cheers.
Alessandro.

fafalio · 25th September 2008

i have found these info in the web.

Furman sued by Surgex for false advertising.

Claim is that Furman promotes their MOV products as series mode surge suppressors. MOV products are not as effective as Series Mode.

Series Mode surge suppressors are from Zero Surge, Brickwall, and Surgex.

fafalio · 26th September 2008

Dear Luigi, here the answer by Martin from Surgex:

"Alessandro,

Thank you for your interest in SurgeX. We will have 220 volt rack products available in January. I can have someone contact you as soon as they become available in Italy.

Best Regards,

Martin M. Dornfeld
VP Sales
SurgeX®"

luigichelli · 27th September 2008

Grazie ale

Jim vanBergen · 28th September 2008

in the US, I like to use ART 4x4 power distribution which monitor inbound voltage as well as amperage draw.

To determine what I needed, I took the jacket off a power cable, and used a Fluke clamp-on ammeter from the entire rack (or set of gear I intended to run off a circuit) to read the draw during full use/load playback.

I never found a rack of studio gear that was drawing over 4-5 amps. Most of my studio racks together draw 6.5 amps on a single 15 amp circuit.

A long time ago, I found I could run my entire remote truck's recording gear on a single 15 amp circuit. I found out the hard way that off solar batteries, most of my gear could also run at significantly reduced voltage- try 89-90 volts instead of 110. Scary, but possible.

The ART 4x4's are a fine little unit -very cheap and nice metering- but not great like SurgEx. I like SurgEx a great deal. They stand by their products and build with quality.

I used to buy a lot of Furman products. I can't say the same about their build quality or customer service.

Hope this helps!

JvB

23rd September 2008	#1
fafalio Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: italy Posts: 153 Thread Starter	furman power conditioners 19': 10 amp series vs 16 amp series? dear friends, need a conditioner for my portable set up. how can i make the calculation to understand what my rack (pre+ audio card and so on) need between 10 or 16 amp? best regards, Alessandro.

24th September 2008	#2
boojum Lives for gear Join Date: May 2007 Location: Astoria, OR, US&A Posts: 2,141	I would add the amps that each piece draws and than add 25% minimum as a safety factor. That is my amateur opinion. Why do you need a conditioner for portable equipment? I have never used a conditioner so please tell me about what you are doing. Thanks, grazia. __________________ Nov schmoz kapop.

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NorseHorse Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DC Posts: 2,067 2 Reviews written	I worked with a friend who had a power conditioned that read the Amps he was using. Between an interface, laptop, daul mic pre w/ phantom power, and Central Station, he was only using about 2 amps or less at any given time. Cheers. __________________ I-95, I-64, I-85 FS: Three sets of headphones ($35)

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Jim vanBergen Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Friggin' City Posts: 2,562	in the US, I like to use ART 4x4 power distribution which monitor inbound voltage as well as amperage draw. To determine what I needed, I took the jacket off a power cable, and used a Fluke clamp-on ammeter from the entire rack (or set of gear I intended to run off a circuit) to read the draw during full use/load playback. I never found a rack of studio gear that was drawing over 4-5 amps. Most of my studio racks together draw 6.5 amps on a single 15 amp circuit. A long time ago, I found I could run my entire remote truck's recording gear on a single 15 amp circuit. I found out the hard way that off solar batteries, most of my gear could also run at significantly reduced voltage- try 89-90 volts instead of 110. Scary, but possible. The ART 4x4's are a fine little unit -very cheap and nice metering- but not great like SurgEx. I like SurgEx a great deal. They stand by their products and build with quality. I used to buy a lot of Furman products. I can't say the same about their build quality or customer service. Hope this helps! JvB