Neumann RSM 191 A-S w/o matrix box

[Farmerbrown2200]

a propo the Neumann RSM 191 A-S

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to record the M and S streams UNcoded to seperate channels in camera/DAT? I am guessing we would do this by not using the matrix box that is included? Does this make sense?

The production would like to chose between the shotgun (M) and the ambiant stereo (S) in post production. If we go through the box I assume these are muxed together for eternity???



Thanks,

Andrew

Double posting this as I now see the other thread is a "review" thread... sorry for the DP.

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by Farmerbrown2200

a propo the Neumann RSM 191 A-S

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to record the M and S streams UNcoded to separate channels in camera/DAT? I am guessing we would do this by not using the matrix box that is included? Does this make sense?

You can download the user manual HERE (scroll down and click on the pdf underneath "Operating Instructions RSM 191 A Set, 02/2003, Engl./Germ.").

There should no problem doing what you want.

Originally Posted by Farmerbrown2200

The production would like to chose between the shotgun (M) and the ambient stereo (S) in post production. If we go through the box I assume these are mixed together for eternity???

No, it's not for eternity - sticking the stereo signal through an MS matrix gives you M and S again.

MS to Stereo
M + S = L
M –S = R

Stereo to MS
L + R = M
L – R = S

Originally Posted by Farmerbrown2200

Double posting this as I now see the other thread is a "review" thread... sorry for the DP.

Actually andwered in the other thread and answered again here.

[Farmerbrown2200]

Hey John,

Is it possible to go through the matix and still keep the two signals (M and S ) seperate? I've been reading the pdf but haven't found any reference to this issue. For portability reasons I would use the matrix with battery power, but I would still like to store the tracks unmatirxed...

Andrew

[Larry Elliott]

Andrew

Decoding the M&S channels later is fine - but make sure there is no chance that someone else will use the raw recordings and wonder why that sound strange.

If possible I would try to record both options.

Best regards

Larry Elliott

[Bié]

Originally Posted by John Willett

You can download the user manual HERE (scroll down and click on the pdf underneath "Operating Instructions RSM 191 A Set, 02/2003, Engl./Germ.").

There should no problem doing what you want.





No, it's not for eternity - sticking the stereo signal through an MS matrix gives you M and S again.

MS to Stereo
M + S = L
M –S = R

Stereo to MS
L + R = M
L – R = S



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Actually andwered in the other thread and answered again here.

Help MTX191A:

Please, somebody has the schematic of MTX 191A of the Neumann stereo RSM191?

Thanks,
Gabriel

[John Willett]

Originally Posted by Bié

Please, somebody has the schematic of MTX 191A of the Neumann stereo RSM191?

Post the question HERE on the Neumann forum and you are likely to get it e-mailed tou you pronto.

[Bié]

Originally Posted by John Willett

Post the question HERE on the Neumann forum and you are likely to get it e-mailed tou you pronto.

Thanks, John!

[Matti]

For the earlier RSM 190, the same mic with physically bigger matrix box - I think

Matti