NIN and the SH!++!des!gn VENUE

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Saw Danzig ...errrr...NIN in Chicago last night. . .

No sound for the first 20 minutes of the show (EDIT- FIRST SONG! - THEY WERE fukcing with the VENUE for about 20 minutes lots of flashing lights, no sound)
(they were rocking out to themselves with the in ear monitorz till they woke-up....now this was funny)

Being the geek that I am ....walked over to the sound board to check out what was going on. . . .and saw LOTS of panic and a D!g!des!gn VENUE fukcing up the show!

They got it going after about 20 minutes.

Nice one D!g!des!gn. This made my night.
(The Venue DID look all cool and hi-tek tho) thumbsup

[Kenny Gioia]

Are you exaggerating or did they actually finish 3 or 4 songs and not notice that nobody was clapping?

Or are they used to that?

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nope....they were ROCKING OUT 100% full on (to themselves) for the intro AND first song till they figured it out. (fukcing funny as all hell)

Glen...errr umm Trent spent the rest of the show saying sorry!

dfegad GO DIGI!

[T_R_S]

I would not be too fast to blame the gear do know for a FACT if was the gear? ... OR the "driver"? I have seen for myself Venue working and there no problems.

[cajonezzz]

I'd like to hear more. I spent about 3 hours at NAB drooling over that console. I'm seriously considering one for a remote truck .

???

[Henchman]

Well, what do you expect. They've been trying to get their stuff to work without crashing for the last 15 years, and have yet to be successfull at that either.

[studjo]

Little update for Henchman - they got it!
At least at my place: NO CRASH SINCE INSTALLATION!

Jo

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by Henchman

Well, what do you expect. They've been trying to get their stuff to work without crashing for the last 15 years, and have yet to be successfull at that either.

Funny I can get ther stuff to work without crashing maybe aftyer 15 years of trying you need to think about a new job?

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by T_R_S

Funny I can't get ther stuff to work without crashing maybe a

You neither?

Originally Posted by T_R_S

Funny I can't get ther stuff to work without crashing maybe aftyer 15 years of trying you need to think about a new job?

Embedded, dedicated OS and hardware is worlds apart from consumer variable computers, OS mods, applications that may/may not work with said mods, etc. Come on, you guys are more intelligent than that.

If NIN was using IEM's and getting their feeds from the house console, it just goes to show you that it more than likely was operator error. Even if the Venue crashes, it has a back up system that keeps passing audio until the harware comes to. No other digital desk is that smooth.

[drew]

this is the thing that runs on Windows XP embedded right?

[T_R_S]

Yes Venue uses XP. I watched a demo at AES and it was pretty impressive it has a pretty radical approach to FOH systems no monitor desk,
24 Track recording through F/W onto a Powerbook (great board tapes)
redundant snake/PSU
no loss of audio/DSP/faders/mutes on reboot.
cheap compared with other digital FOH desks
I can see a lot of old school guys not liking it.

That's ok, because the old school guys won't make it with the new business models of touring anyway. It is going to take young, plyable minds, open to knew ideas. Now the engineer can be the creative yes man, instead of some sort of technical dictator, hiding behind the so-called technical limitations of their live rigs. No we are going to hear who are the men and who are boys with expensive toys. I like it.

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by Lowdbrent

That's ok, because the old school guys won't make it with the new business models of touring anyway. It is going to take young, plyable minds, open to knew ideas. Now the engineer can be the creative yes man, instead of some sort of technical dictator, hiding behind the so-called technical limitations of their live rigs. No we are going to hear who are the men and who are boys with expensive toys. I like it.

You are so clueless as to the knowledge and adaptability of these "old school" guys.
You're sounding like a wannabe who is hoping he'll get gigs because he's young and hip.

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by Henchman

You neither?

So sorry typo I blew that one.