stereo recording and ms techniques

[vaesion]

I finally have more than 1 mic.
whats some good tips on ms?
WHats some good tips on stereo recording?
I just got a pair of se mics

http://www.seelectronics.com/web/cm_SE1A.htm

they are a new chinese brand I got from a friend of mine.
picked them up for 400.
Recording in stereo is awesome.........I love flipping the polarity on one side on my mp2nv and hearing how real it sounds.


BRyan

[vaesion]

tomorrow im gona record a guy singing and playing the guitar all at once..........
should i use ms or put the stereo mics on each end of the guitar and the u87 at his mouth?

can anyone name some pop records ms was used on the lead?

b

[vaesion]

can anyone translate this to me?
i wanna apply this in my computer and i dont know if its possible.
He says some mastering engineers use ms to widen a stereo image.
how can i do this in the computer.......
this is what he said

Matrixing Left-Right Stereo to MS

It is possible to take any Left-Right stereo signal, and matrix it into it's M and S components. Why do this? Mastering engineers have used this technique to widen (or narrow) the stereo image of recordings that are too 'mono'. A stereo L-R signal can be narrowed by panning the L and R channels more centrally, but may cause phase cancellation artifacts if the signal is not fully mono compatible. It is impossible to widen the stereo image by using pan pots. Matrixing a L-R stereo signal into it's M and S components allows one to widen the stereo image by increasing the S component in relation to the M component, and also to listen to playbacks using a technique that eliminates the center phantom image problems described previously. One way of matrixing a L-R stereo signal to MS requires a mixing board with a mono output, an augmented speaker array (and a soldering iron to make the necessary cables):

•bring the Left and Right channels of the source material in on two mixer channels,

•pan them hard left and right respectively, and assign them to a pair of output busses (for example, Group outs 1 and 2),

•derive the M component by assigning both of these channels to the mono output bus on the board.

The S component requires a special cable to go from the two Group outs (as above) to a single BALANCED line input:

•connect the + wire of the LEFT/GROUP output (as assigned above) to the TIP (or the + XLR pin) of the balanced line input connector.

•connect the + wire of the RIGHT/GROUP output (as assigned above) to the RING (or the - XLR pin) of the balanced line input connector.

•connect both of the shields to the sleeve (or XLR pin 1) of the input connector.

This new plug is the S component.

These M and S signals can either be brought into other channels of the same mixer and fed to the L-R outputs, matrixed to form L-R again in exactly the same way as described in the 'Matrixing MS to Stereo' portion of this document. The stereo width of the originally L-R source material can now be changed by varying the amount of S component relative to the M component.

If the board you are using does not have a MONO output buss, you can assign the L and R inputs to two odd (or even) numbered Group Outs, and use a Y cable to sum these outputs into one input connector.

[Jules]

Anyone wih more than a passing interest in recording (everything) in stereo for pop music should buy the Bruce Swedien book "Make Mine Music"

[max cooper]

If you want to make that signal wider, add a little distortion to the "side" component before you put it back together.