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Old 29th December 2004   #1
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Question MS Recording

I am wondering if anyone has had good results with MS recording using 3 inputs of a console as opposed to a matrix decoder. Returning the M mic to one input and panning it in the middle, returning the S mic to another input and panning it hard left, and then taking a direct out of that input to another input - reversing the phase - and panning hard right. Or - are most people using a matrix? If so, what matrix boxes would you recommend.

Also - with regard to the mics...what mics have you had good luck with - and how are you positioning them? One on top of the other? Next to each other? Heads abutting each other?

And...what applications are you using MS for?

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Oddly, I was just wondering the same thing. Inquiring minds want to know.
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I use MS a lot with my C24. Piano, acoustic guitar. I've tried it on room mics for choir and orchestra but usually prefer a spaced pair for that.

Faders on the cosole and a matrix have both worked fine for me.I had a box built using Reichenbach transformers for easy decoding that I use all the time.

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Decoding it yourself is fine and there's no need to use a "decoder", although a decoder might help you achieve that sound your looking for.

When properly manually decoded you have the same flexiblity a decoder will offer you.


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I like MS for drum room sounds very much.

Did a few things with per in MS too.

I should use it more, because it's really sweet.


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newbie question.....

Hi...I'm new to recording so bear with me please.... MS is where you have one cardoid mic facing the singer or instrument, and a figure eight mic on top facing the sides, correct ? From what I gather, the figure eight mic will pic up the left side of the room and right side of the room, but will need to be put back in phase with each other.
Now, instead of using a figure eight mic, is there any benefit to using, say, two mics( rode K2's set between cardoid and omni) facing back to back and facing the sides ? One for left channel and one for right, with M cardoid in panned in the middle ? The reason I ask is that it just seems like their would be more of a stereo effect like this, since , for example, if you recorded closer to the left wall, you'd hear earlier "early reflections" than the right wall, which could give better stereo spread.... Is this being done by anyone.... does it have a special name ? I bought a book on mic techniques but haven't seen this.... please excuse my ignorance, and enlighten me if this is already widely used..... thanks ! Luke
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