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Old 5th July 2008   #31
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Thanks Jim...

That answers it!! I appreciate the reply!
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Old 6th July 2008   #32
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Guys, the nickynicknick dude may be an ass, but he's right. For metal in small rooms anything other than a close mic'd drum would be useless. I don't even think doubling up on the toms with one mic would work. I have done hundreds, if not thousands of "metal bands in small rooms", hell, I did five earlier tonight.
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No offense, you guys just don't know.
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Old 9th July 2008   #34
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Kick, Snare, and whatever Toms you can cover is usually my vote. If you aren't tracking it, you really don't need overheads in a small room IMO. What i would do if i was limited by inputs on my FOH board is get a cheap 4 channel mixer (dare i say, a behringer ) so i could cover a drummer with 4 toms, and not have to do any of that micing in between drums stuff. You can just send a stereo output from that into 2 channels and then plug the Kick and Snare into the other 2. This can also be a good way to save a couple compressors too. theres my 2 cents.
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Old 10th July 2008   #35
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no no no no no...the reality is in small bars the only thing that MAYBE needs a mic is the Kick drum. Also getting a stereo image in these situations isn't really going to matter or be noticed...really. But if you must use 4 mics, they most definitely would be Kic ,Snare, Rack Tom, Floor Tom. The last thing you need in a small bar is more cymbals (from overheads) in the PA. No offense, you guys just don't know.
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1 Kick
2 Snare
3 Toms on a "Y"
4 Steve's Remoteny (Omni pointed in the direction of the drummers kick knee)

Thanks for that one Steve. I love that mic placement. I used it again yesterday and everyone thought it was the the bomb. Fine tune it and you could do the kit with that mic only.
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Thanks!

The interesting thing about the Remoteny mic placement was that I started using it when I was doing live sound for a band that had a lot of musicians and singers and usually only had one or two inputs for the drums.

If I had two inputs the second mic would be for the hi-hat...

Funny thing is now-a-days I don't usually use a hi-hat mic.
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feckinedgit,

It wasn't your fault, nickynicknick cannot help himself.

Believe it or not, this is how he treats everyone...

Tick-tock-tick-tock -- his time on this forum is running out...

If my patients runs out so will he. He may need to be quieted for awhile.

I trust (if he's a genuine professional) he will see the light before he sees the door.
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Exclamation Second warning nickynicknicknickynicknicknickynicknick

Be very careful what you say nickynicknicknickynicknicknickynicknick!

I've very serious about what I said in regard to the way you treat the folks on this forum.

Despite how you come off to the folks here, I believe you have a lot of good things to say and contribute to the forum.
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took your advice guys re not underpowering the speakers and ordered the T.AMP TA2400

1200w per channel rms at 4 ohms.

Should drive the bins and tops nicely with tons of headoom.
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