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Old 17th May 2008, 12:08 AM   #1
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Question Reamping live tracks

I am still planning and my pitch is on Thursday.

Question came to mind... one piece on my proposal is a 6176 which means I have a pre and an 1176.

I considered going back and reamping as neccessary, vox tracks and such through the 1176, after tracking.

Is reamping common with you experienced live guys?

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Old 17th May 2008, 01:05 AM   #2
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Perhaps your definition of reamping is different than mine.

From what I understand, reamping is when you take a track and play it through an amp while re-miking the new amp/cabinet combination to another track.

Inserting a 1176 onto a vocal track is not reamping.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

In any event, reamping is not very common for us live folks, but it has been done when a guitar rig didn't originally sound right during the performance.
Putting it through another GTR rig and re-miking the cabinet is a great way to fix the problem.
Re-cutting the GTR tracks is also done more times than I want to admit.
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Thanks for correcting that.

I thought I had seen people mentioning processing with outboard in a similar fashion, and wondered if it was prevalent in the live recording field where you are capturing, perhaps, more tracks than you can process live.

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Robert:

Processing your tracks during your mix is not re-amping.

If you're talking about processing your live tracks after the fact, that's another story.

We process our live tracks each and every time we mix.

It's the way we (and many others) do it.
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sorry but I must not be communicating my thoughts well. I will just drop it. Thanks for your patience.
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No worries Robert.

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sorry but I must not be communicating my thoughts well. I will just drop it. Thanks for your patience.

I think it's just miscommunication over terminology. Reamping usually refers to the process of taking a bass or guitar track that may or may not have been recorded direct and then putting through an amplifier and mic'ing that and bringing that back into the mix. I suppose you could consider what you are suggesting to be a kind of reamping as there are amplifiers involved in preamps and compressors, but it's done all the time. Most studios, in fact, will do this while mixing and it's more commonly referred to as an analog insert effect or something like that. As long as you keep track of the delay created by the d/a and a/d process, you will have no trouble at all doing it.

One of the earliest examples of classic reamping I've heard of was when the Grateful Dead were working on Europe '72, recorded in the spring of 1972 on the road in France, England, Germany, Holland, etc. Since they had notoriously "charming" intonation, they wanted to fix their background vocals and some of the less well intonated guitar parts. However, they were not comfortable doing it in a studio as it tended to make the vocals very sterile and obviously overdubbed. So, they set up their entire concert stage and ran the tracks through all the amplifiers and ran their normal monitor mix. Then, they sang along with that through the PA. The resulting vocals sounded live because they were in essence in the same environment as the original vocals would have been. Pretty forward thinking for 1972.

I do reamp bass tracks a lot as I tend to take a DI and often a bass amp track will provide a better space for the bass to sit in mix nicely.

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