mixer for line level signals

[Westmalle]

Which mixer can be used to mix 8 line signals to a stereo output?
I don't need mike preamps, as I want to buy them separately.
The stereo output will be recorded by a Korg MR-1000.

[bitman]

I have a bunch of stereo line level channel strips from a broadcast board.
They only have penny and giles faders and a pan with some buss assignment buttons. I have the schematics too if you are interested in making your own PM me.

[fifthcircle]

Pretty open ended question... What quality and what budget? The Inward Connections stuff that Steve Firlotte makes is pretty cool. He made a custom one that I've used (4 stereo/mono channels). Also allows for M-S decoding. Left input is mono, left/right is stereo. Last pair has a phase reverse. Gain adjustment on each.

Cost a couple grand to have made probably 10-15 years ago, though.

--Ben

[rmx16]

Originally Posted by Westmalle

Which mixer can be used to mix 8 line signals to a stereo output?
I don't need mike preamps, as I want to buy them separately.
The stereo output will be recorded by a Korg MR-1000.

http://www.speck.com/xsum/xsum.shtml

Peace

[Jim vanBergen]

The AMS-Neve unit is very sweet. Not for the faint of heart when it comes to $$. Speck Electronics makes a full sized line mixer. I'm with Ben, can you tell us more about exactly what you're looking for?

Cheers!

JvB

[Westmalle]

It needs to mix the signals from a Soundfield (L-R) and outputs from some AEA TRP preamps, and DPA HMA 5000.

[Remoteness]

Yes, but what's your price range?
Are you looking for class A design?
Do you want tubes or a solid state box?
Must it be discrete or will chips do?

[David Spearritt]

Hux : Summing Amplifier

[Westmalle]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

Yes, but what's your price range?
Are you looking for class A design?
Do you want tubes or a solid state box?
Must it be discrete or will chips do?

I want to save money this way, so I can spend more then 2000 or 3000 $.
If more, I can as well buy a Cranesong Spider I think.

[Remoteness]

Save your money and buy a Spider.
You will not regret it -- That's for sure.

[videoteque]

Stupid question, the Spider mixing is digital or analog??

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by videoteque

Stupid question, the Spider mixing is digital or analog??

It's Both!

[Westmalle]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

Save your money and buy a Spider.
You will not regret it -- That's for sure.

Are there some threads here that explain discrete vs. chips, tube vs transistor and Class A ?

[Adebar]

Lots of good suggestions already. I´d like to add my 2 cents.

The Speck LILO could be more flexible than the Xsum.

If you´re looking only for 19" mixer, take a look at ADT ToolMix 8. It has more conections than the Speck Xsum and insert´s and an aux bus too.

Old Studio Mixer like the 169 or the 961 are also there as 8 channel versions, but they have micpreamps which you may not need.

Sonosax has a very good small mixer with the SX-S series - but also with preamps.

[Westmalle]

Well I got a lot of responses, I'll have to look up a lot of info now... Thanks!

[Westmalle]

Is this ADT toolmix 8ch regarded as good enough for mixing classical music signals?

[Dzoing]

Originally Posted by Westmalle

Is this ADT toolmix 8ch regarded as good enough for mixing classical music signals?

Sure! It is one of the cleanest location mixer. Headroom is huge (+30dBu), PSU is external and powerfull, there is NO hum or backgroung noise.

[AMIEL]

Get a Dangerous Music!!

[Mazo Audio]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

It's Both!

Hello Steve,

How can the mixer section be both? Was this response tongue in cheek?

Peace,

Lance

[Jim vanBergen]

The ADT Toolkit 8 looks pretty cool, until I saw you need a 2 RU Power Supply for the 1RU line mixer. Is anyone in the US using ADT stuff?

As far as the question on the Crane Song Spider, yes, it's both. It's 8 channels of analog preamps with an analog summing section, it also can do eight channels of digital out (with some very nice sounding converters) or a stereo out.

http://www.cranesong.com/spider.html

Maybe that will help. It's obviously not in everyone's price range, but it's a VERY nice sounding unit, great preamps, converters, and the DSP tape emulation can be just what the doctor ordered when you go from tracking a pristine orchestra to a rock drum kit and want a more tape-like sound.

hope this helps!

JvB

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by Mazo Audio

Hello Steve,

How can the mixer section be both? Was this response tongue in cheek?

Peace,

Lance

Originally Posted by Jim vanBergen

...As far as the question on the Crane Song Spider, yes, it's both. It's 8 channels of analog preamps with an analog summing section, it also can do eight channels of digital out (with some very nice sounding converters) or a stereo out.

Crane Song Website

Maybe that will help. It's obviously not in everyone's price range, but it's a VERY nice sounding unit, great preamps, converters, and the DSP tape emulation can be just what the doctor ordered when you go from tracking a pristine orchestra to a rock drum kit and want a more tape-like sound.

hope this helps!

JvB

Yes, the Crane Song Spider is everything stated above and more...

It's an excellent sounding device that works well with every style of music.
It's simple an awesome piece of equipment and, your mileage will not vary.

[Mazo Audio]

Yup, I know that remoteness is for sure a straight shooter, I've really enjoyed the way this part of the forum works and folks like Steve (and you too Jim) have helped me quite a bit. I wish I could send y'all one of our fine Wisconsin microbrews out east! (but not send our recording budgets!) I was just hoping to prod a bit more info about how that mixer section on the Spider works. I've always thought for years (ever since they came out with it) that the Spider must be one of the coolest recording tools ever built.

It's basically a mini recording console. (and made in Wisconsin!) You can dial in a mix with it but not have to entirely commit, (how cool is that?) As I get close to biting the bullet and picking one of these up, I'm interested in hearing about it. It's not the kind of thing you can easily get your hands on a make comparisions around these parts.

So thanks for all of your contributions and I raise a glass to you fella's tonight! By the way I take it you guys like the Spider pres?

Lance

[Mazo Audio]

Sorry, I didn't want to hijack at all either, for the OP, the Spider can be used as a line mixer with the addition of sweet conversion, also a analog summing unit for those folks who want to mix OTB or do it "before the box".

[ESL]

Originally Posted by Mazo Audio

Sorry, I didn't want to hijack at all either, for the OP, the Spider can be used as a line mixer with the addition of sweet conversion, also a analog summing unit for those folks who want to mix OTB or do it "before the box".

The Spider has mic and line inputs (separate 1/4" in) for each channel, selectable at the touch of a button. No conversion is necessary.

check out the manual:
http://cranesong.com/downloads/spide...ual%20ver0.pdf

[Westmalle]

Well , I checked the price for the ADT toolmix 8ch , and it is really not expensive!!
Really curious to hear it one day...