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Help with mic placement for trio (piano,clarinet,viola)
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I have to record a trio in a week or so, it's Motzart and is a piano,clarinet,viola trio. I have never recorded a trio before but here is what I was thinking.

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ADK in blumlein at about lid height very close, I thought this would be able to capture the piano clearly while still keeping it attached to the clarinet and viola due to its rear pickup. And a pair of AB omnis to pick up the clarity of the clarinet and viola (will only be a foot or 2 infront) while also wrapping up the entire scene.
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With that arrangement you will get multi-path distortion.

If the room is good I would try a single stereo pair.

Capture the ensemble how the audience will hear them.
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With that arrangement you will get multi-path distortion.

If the room is good I would try a single stereo pair.

Capture the ensemble how the audience will hear them.
Oh, because the latency of the clarinet and viola will be different on teh 2 pairs? Would that setup work if it were just piano? Thats how I've been recording piano.
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clarinet will be recorded in left side of the omnis, and in the right side of the blumlein setup. viola the other way around. not good

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clarinet will be recorded in left side of the omnis, and in the right side of the blumlein setup. viola the other way around. not good

-jon
Would I be ok if I did ORTF on the piano?
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I don't think you're going to need to spot-mic the piano at all.
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I don't think you're going to need to spot-mic the piano at all.
Agreed - as I said, just a single stereo pair.
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If your players are even half-way decent, there will be no need to spot the piano. The Mozart Kegelstadt Trio is very lightly written and if anything, your problem will be too much piano, not too little. It is one of the great works in the chamber repertoire, though... Enjoy.

As others have said, a good ORTF pair will do you just fine. Move so that you have a good sound amongst the three players. You'll probably need to center the pair on the clarinet and viola and the piano will still be fine. I'd probably start about 8 feet back and 7 or 8 feet high. Move to taste.

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