Official 2008 GRAMMY Awards Show Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by mike dean

make a better record, get as many grammys, or shut up you haters!!

if anyone should be upset its us. we were fukked again by the grammy peeps on album of the year. but cant complain about the other catagories.

next album, album of the year.! if not i quit NARIS!! lol mike dean

The people that decide who gets a grammy and who does not go by what sells best or who has the biggest breasts

[hanuman]

So your grammys is like our Eurovision songfestival? We have a big issue here with public juries/votes. Whatever the people are voting does not get good results in contests. People vote for looks or appeal and not for the song. Professional juries should prevale. So is Grammys a record number show or a public vote show?

[The Press Desk at Gearslutz.com]

Pinewood Studios, UK (15th February, 2008) — Digidesign, a part of Avid Technology, Inc. (Nasdaq: AVID), is pleased to report that recordings in which Digidesign® Pro Tools® systems had been used were honoured with numerous nominations and awards at the 2008 Grammy® Awards, which celebrated its golden anniversary last Sunday with a star-studded cast of nominees, winners, and performers. As in previous years, Pro Tools was used prominently in the recordings of both winners and nominees across a diverse set of categories and genres, from rock, hip hop, and country to soundtrack, comedy, and surround sound recordings.

It was an especially big night for Best New Artist winner Amy Winehouse. Pro Tools was used in the production of her breakout album Back to Black, for which producer Mark Ronson was awarded the Grammy for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical. Winehouse ended the night with a host of Grammys, including Best New Artist, Record of the Year, Song of the Year, Best Female Pop Vocal Performance and Best Pop Vocal Album.

Not only was Pro Tools used heavily in the production of Back to Black, it was also used in the recording and production process for numerous other Grammy-winning releases from a variety of artists, including Vince Gill, Foo Fighters, and Album of the Year winner Herbie Hancock. Other winning songs and albums recorded with Pro Tools spanned a broad range of categories, including Best Hard Rock Performance (the Foo Fighters’ “The Pretender”), Best R&B Album (Chaka Khan’s Funk This), Best Country Album (Vince Gill’s These Days), Best Latin Pop Album (El Tren De Los Momentos by Alejandro Sanz), Best Folk Album (Levon Helm’s Dirt Farmer), Best Reggae Album (Stephen Marley’s Mind Control), and Best Surround Sound Album (The Beatles’ Love).

Gil Norton, who produced the Foo Fighter’s Grammy-winning album, Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace, which also spawned the Grammy-winning single, “The Pretender,” was quick to point out the powerful contributions of Pro Tools to his process. “I think for any producer using Pro Tools, or any kid who picks it up, it’s important to use it to its fullest extent,” he reported. “But you have to honour the human element of what happens when someone plays music too. There’s a whole world inside Pro Tools that you can use to enhance what you do.”

“It was a great night for artists who use Pro Tools — their recordings took home major wins in almost every category across the board,” said Dave Lebolt, Avid vice president and general manager of Digidesign. “Pro Tools|HD’s versatility in helping to produce stellar recordings across every musical and artistic genre is reflected in the wide range of awards in nearly every conceivable category. Our heartfelt congratulations to our many loyal customers among the winners and nominees alike.”

For the Grammy Awards telecast, Pro Tools along with Digidesign ICON integrated consoles also played critical roles in the HDTV and 5.1 surround sound broadcast from the Staples Center in Los Angeles. From their XM/Effanel mobile production trailer, the Grammy telecast audio engineers incorporated dual Digidesign 32-fader ICON D-Control™ systems to deliver real-time 5.1 surround mixes for every live performance and presentation during the telecast. The unique dual system configuration allowed sound engineers to successfully create high-quality custom mixes for all on-air performances.


Hank Neuberger, co-broadcast audio supervisor, commented on the positive impact Digidesign ICON systems make to the telecast: “In the past three years we’ve come to rely heavily on the power and flexibility of the dual ICON systems. Thanks to the tremendous workflow advantages made possible by these systems, we’re literally able to capture more pre-mix time for our music mixers to create the very best balances. This allows performers and their producers more [collaboration time] with our music mixers to create a better sounding show overall. In the end, the results speak for themselves.”

[SkunkWorks]

Originally Posted by indie

Brad Paisley - MAN can he play guitar!!!!!!!thumbsup
no comment on the song though.

My thoughts exactly. Have always loved Brad's playing but that was a really lame choice of song for such an event.

[SkunkWorks]

Originally Posted by kadeemusic

They seemed to keep the focus more on the musical performances, rather than one award presentation after another.

This is the very reason why the Junos are the only music award show I watch. It's more about good artists (who write their own material), good music, performances and a celebration of music than a competition. To me, music, or any of the arts for that matter, is not a contest. It's too subjective, how can you say something is "best"... "best" to who?

[infopimpster]

So how much do your political positions influence the Grammys? I mean, Springsteen... give me a break.

I'm sorry - wait, no I'm not sorry. I'm tired of listening to politics from musicians... I don't care if I agree with their positions or not, but in general the limosine liberals are the worst. "Global warming blah blah blah" as they get into their private jets.

/rant off

[joeq]

Originally Posted by hanuman

So your grammys is like our Eurovision songfestival? We have a big issue here with public juries/votes. Whatever the people are voting does not get good results in contests. People vote for looks or appeal and not for the song. Professional juries should prevale. So is Grammys a record number show or a public vote show?

The Grammys are like the Oscars - an Academy of people "in the industry" votes, but not exactly a professional jury. There are about 14,000 of them.

not a public vote- except in that the public has already voted with their wallets, which must have an influence how the people "in the industry" feel about a record.

there is some effort to have people actually knowledgeable in each field working the nominating process, but there is also a lot of politics - especially in the big popular categories.

The final voting is completed by those same eligible members of NARAS -- "eligible" by virtue of appearing in some capacity on at least 12 professionally recorded albums. There is no restriction on who votes on what. A single member can vote in no more than nine out of the 31 fields of competition (classical music is the largest single field), but there is nothing to stop someone voting in classical, country and R&B.

like so many such awards, it is possible for people to vote outside their area of expertise, or even vote for stuff they haven't heard. this leads to a kind of inertia where name recognition will prevail- what is already popular will be more popular etc.

kind of like how certain gear gets 'awarded' status by gearslutz parroting the praise of other gearslutz.

[GearBit]

Originally Posted by machineintel

Didn't educated music lovers decide eons ago that the Grammys were total BS?

So why are we still watching them?

Good point.

If commercial awards are not your thing you might want to check out The Shortlist Of Music


Props to my old manager greg spotts for this much needed idea.

[Sigma]

Originally Posted by machineintel

Didn't educated music lovers decide eons ago that the Grammys were total BS?

So why are we still watching them?

the same reason people slow down for car accidents