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Old 29th January 2008, 04:56 PM   #1
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Talking More reverb on Drums or Piano

I am just taking a quick survey.
What do you prefer in jazz recordings, more reverb (room) for drums?
Or more reverb on piano?
I have found very few recordings that seem to be equal. Many live recordings seem to be more balanced.
For instance dryer piano for articulation with medium wet drums.
Piano wet to smooth out sound with dry drums for energy.
Does that make sense to you all?

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For me it really depends on the particular situation rather than a rule of thumb on this one.
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Hey Matt! Good question.

IMO, I dig reverb on the drum set. My favourite recordings have a dry piano and wet drums. Think RVG, Columbia, Riverside etc...

A fair amount of leakage from the drums into horn mics, helps with the depth perception.
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Totally depends on the situation for me. When I mixed T.S. Monk, the drums got more focus, and a little more 'verb. For Dave Brubeck, the piano (obviously)! And then you decide if a touch of 'verb (or swimming in it!) will improve. I think some recordings have more verb on the OH mics and toms than the snare & kick...or the snare & toms are swimming but the OHs & kick are nearly dry! What matters more to me is how the whole instrument fits together, and then how the instruments relate. I'd make sure not to leave one or the other dry, as that always makes me nuts.

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When recording jazz from my experience it depends so much on the style I think..if you have a piano trio playing ballads or more subtle music, then sometimes the piano can have a little more air around it and the drums and bass can be fairly dry...
If it's more full on quartet/quintet or larger ensembles then I reckon ambience on the drums to taste...and as pointed out, the drum spill can really help subliminally to create that sense of depth....reverb on drums is tricky so that you don't necessarily hear the reverb...but you hear the effect of it....with that in mind I often reduce the HF in the reverb return so that it sounds more natural.
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