Beginner PA setup 3K Budget

jbuntz · 21st May 2004

What should I get assuming I'm starting from scratch?

Jam · 22nd May 2004

I'm not sure what the USA prices are like (I'm assuming it's better value than in the UK) but check out the Mackie stuff SRM450 and a CFX mixer it's not stunning but it's good value for money IMHO

Jam

**Remoteness** · 22nd May 2004

jbuntz,

You must be talking about a really small system.

$3,000.00 does buy you much. Keep in mind you're talking about "X" amount of mics & stands, plenty of cables, "X" amount of band & audience speakers, then you have to get power amps or go with powered speakers. What about the console and additional toys?

What kind of (or size) rig are you looking for? You may need to reconsider if it needs to handle more then 500 people.

jbuntz · 22nd May 2004

It will be for small shows more than likely (100ish). I've got some 57's and mic stands I could probably donate. I don't need anything fancy.

ProFool · 23rd May 2004

Get yourselve a nice stereo vocal pre like a Langevin and a Kurzweil rumour reverb.
for the rest use what you already have and rent some gear for the gigs, builld it up from there.
try to include the renting gear price in the bands price.
If it is for your guinea pig band?
you could do this, band x $ AE $ Gear rent x$ = xxx $ to book the band or include in the contract that the organizing party should rent xxx gear. It works for me, Rome was'nt build in a day

good luck

John Hedger · 23rd May 2004

I have a four piece blues band and probably spent much less than 3K for all my PA gear last year. I spent about $600 on an 8-channel Peavy 200W PA head with a 200W Monitor amp built in. I believe it is an XR684. Then I paid about $500 for a pair of JBL eon 1500 main speakers and about $500 for a pair of EV monitor speakers, $50 for speaker stands,$60 for cables,etc.. However I already had my Shure SM58's and mic stands. this rig is good for all the moderatw size clubs I play plus most outdoor gigs!! I would recommend Peavey over Mackie because I think it simply sounds better and is probably more durable in the long haul.

John Hedger

ProFool · 24th May 2004

jbuntz did you heard of LEM ultimix?

Very interesting 20 channel mixer.
I had a demo this afternoon of the smaller model, they are available in September and +- 15ooEuro

Features are

20 inputs
12 mono 4 stereo 16 mic inputs yes the stereo channels have xlr's on them to. + insert
Comp and noise gate on each mono channel + gain reduction display
3band intelligent eq with Low Cut
3 monitor sends also with intelli eq, HFP, LFP, + 2 notch filters
4 subgroups with Mix L&R routing + mix 2 and CR outputs
Built in stereo FX processor + 60mm fader FX returns
Built in stereo 15 band graphic eq on the master
24bitADC & DAC and 40bit processing
+20db max input and +20d max output
Carrying bag

I did a web search and there is still nothing to find about it, except that it was opening of it at the music messe.

Anybody saw it, heard it?
What do you think of it?

21st May 2004	#1
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Remoteness Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 7,405	jbuntz, You must be talking about a really small system. $3,000.00 does buy you much. Keep in mind you're talking about "X" amount of mics & stands, plenty of cables, "X" amount of band & audience speakers, then you have to get power amps or go with powered speakers. What about the console and additional toys? What kind of (or size) rig are you looking for? You may need to reconsider if it needs to handle more then 500 people. __________________ Steve Remote AuraSonicLtd.com the home of ASL Mobile & Location Production Remoteness on the Linkedin Network What about my Facebook Profile? Remoteness on Myspace

23rd May 2004	#5
ProFool Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: BELGICA, THE FLANDERS, VENICE OF THE NORTH ! Posts: 996	Get yourselve a nice stereo vocal pre like a Langevin and a Kurzweil rumour reverb. for the rest use what you already have and rent some gear for the gigs, builld it up from there. try to include the renting gear price in the bands price. If it is for your guinea pig band? you could do this, band x $ AE $ Gear rent x$ = xxx $ to book the band or include in the contract that the organizing party should rent xxx gear. It works for me, Rome was'nt build in a day good luck __________________ Everybody knows that's what aliens sound like - Dr. Bob Moog

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22nd May 2004	#2
Jam Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 1,463	I'm not sure what the USA prices are like (I'm assuming it's better value than in the UK) but check out the Mackie stuff SRM450 and a CFX mixer it's not stunning but it's good value for money IMHO Jam

23rd May 2004	#6
John Hedger Gear maniac Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 188	I have a four piece blues band and probably spent much less than 3K for all my PA gear last year. I spent about $600 on an 8-channel Peavy 200W PA head with a 200W Monitor amp built in. I believe it is an XR684. Then I paid about $500 for a pair of JBL eon 1500 main speakers and about $500 for a pair of EV monitor speakers, $50 for speaker stands,$60 for cables,etc.. However I already had my Shure SM58's and mic stands. this rig is good for all the moderatw size clubs I play plus most outdoor gigs!! I would recommend Peavey over Mackie because I think it simply sounds better and is probably more durable in the long haul. John Hedger

24th May 2004	#7
ProFool Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: BELGICA, THE FLANDERS, VENICE OF THE NORTH ! Posts: 996	jbuntz did you heard of LEM ultimix? Very interesting 20 channel mixer. I had a demo this afternoon of the smaller model, they are available in September and +- 15ooEuro Features are 20 inputs 12 mono 4 stereo 16 mic inputs yes the stereo channels have xlr's on them to. + insert Comp and noise gate on each mono channel + gain reduction display 3band intelligent eq with Low Cut 3 monitor sends also with intelli eq, HFP, LFP, + 2 notch filters 4 subgroups with Mix L&R routing + mix 2 and CR outputs Built in stereo FX processor + 60mm fader FX returns Built in stereo 15 band graphic eq on the master 24bitADC & DAC and 40bit processing +20db max input and +20d max output Carrying bag I did a web search and there is still nothing to find about it, except that it was opening of it at the music messe. Anybody saw it, heard it? What do you think of it?