Schubert for your Friday

[springer]

Hi All,
(Schubert - "Death and the Maiden" arranged for this group by Conductor
Kenneth Woods)
A little excerpt from a chamber orchestra I did recently in a smaller chapel (rather dry but pleasant). It is unaltered except for mp3 encoding...

---Now the help I need from you - what else would you do to it from here in post? EQ, Reverb, etc...
Details please, critiques welcome, and I accept donations

Recording chain:
2 AKG c480/ck62 Omnis in Jecklin (KONG) about 9 feet up and 7 feet in back of conductor -> my wonderful gem Oade modded Marantz PMD660
Thank you,
Patrick

[cubivore]

wow, i was not prepared for the segment to start at such a loud spot!

i have played this piece before with quartets and have fond memories of those times. lol

there is some good punch in this recording and the dynamics translate well, but there's certainly some "wool" in the low mids that i might scoop out or roll off. past about halfway through the sample is one line where the violins and cello harmonize that emphasizes this. but that's just me.

nice treat. thanks!

[pkautzsch]

2nd the "wool" thing. And there seems to be a certain scratchiness to the recording which I've also found in the few occasions I used a 414, so maybe that's an AKG thing.
Good balance, and I'm really surprised at such presence coming from a system a bit farther away than I'd normally start with.
Needs the right amount of some nice reverb though.

[XLR]

Thanks!
Light for the friday evening :-)

Peter and Cubivore, could You please explain the "wool thing" a little?
I'd like to learn more...!

[springer]

I am trying some different EQ settings and finding that a little drop around 100Hz helps clear up the "wool" without too much degradation of the nice lows from the sole Bass player. I am amazed at how much power one bass has!
My take on your "wool" comment would be an abundance or build up of a certain frequency (probably due to the room) that overshadows some of the parts. Please correct me if I am wrong...

What did you think of my homemade Jecklin (kong)? Just a circle of Owens-Corning 1" thick compressed fiberglass, covered in felt. I was picking up some comb filtering so I covered that with black gorrilla suit fabric from the local fabric store.

Keep 'em comin

[big country]

Originally Posted by springer

What did you think of my homemade Jecklin (kong)? Just a circle of Owens-Corning 1" thick compressed fiberglass, covered in felt. I was picking up some comb filtering so I covered that with black gorrilla suit fabric from the local fabric store.

very cool,
how does it attach to the Mic stand


I made one a while back out of 703 and a sewing hoop and a stereo bar
BTW
great recording

[cubivore]

Originally Posted by springer

I am trying some different EQ settings and finding that a little drop around 100Hz helps clear up the "wool" without too much degradation of the nice lows from the sole Bass player. I am amazed at how much power one bass has!
My take on your "wool" comment would be an abundance or build up of a certain frequency (probably due to the room) that overshadows some of the parts. Please correct me if I am wrong...

yeah, this is exactly what i was talking about. by wool, i meant the hairy-ness that was happening in the low end. i think it was a combination of room verb amplifying the bass stuff. just by using the crappy eq on my wackie seemed to give some clarity by cutting the low end, but maybe a roll-off around 100k and adding some high end for the violins wouldn't hurt. the viola, cello, and bass player have an unfair advantage over the two measly violin players just in numbers alone! i used to only perform this as a quartet with 2vln, 1 vla, 1 cello. the extended bass section in this arrangement certainly gives it some thunder! stike

[springer]

Thanks big...

As you have worked with compressed fiberglass before you know how it easily falls to pieces... well, kong is a fairly delicate beast. I took a 5/8" dowel and molded a screwdriver handle to it with a resin material for the mic holder end.
Then I simply stuck it into the fiberglass and made a hole - poured in some elmers wood glue and inserted the dowel - allow to dry. Once the felt was sewn around it tightly it gave more support to it, but I still have to be careful.
Jecklin has been such a wonderful way to record too - great imaging with omnis! Everything from single instruments to big band horn sections to this chamber orch. comes out really nicely. I am sold. Now I am forging into Blumlein next...

[pkautzsch]

Originally Posted by cubivore

by wool, i meant the hairy-ness

Originally Posted by springer

I covered that with black gorrilla suit fabric from the local fabric store.

So that's what it was.

[big country]

Originally Posted by springer

Thanks big...

As you have worked with compressed fiberglass before you know how it easily falls to pieces... well, kong is a fairly delicate beast. I took a 5/8" dowel and molded a screwdriver handle to it with a resin material for the mic holder end.
Then I simply stuck it into the fiberglass and made a hole - poured in some elmers wood glue and inserted the dowel - allow to dry. Once the felt was sewn around it tightly it gave more support to it, but I still have to be careful.
Jecklin has been such a wonderful way to record too - great imaging with omnis! Everything from single instruments to big band horn sections to this chamber orch. comes out really nicely. I am sold. Now I am forging into Blumlein next...

Indeed they are great

Kong (LoL...) looks great , hopefully he is not the product of a African safari

(now if I can just get my jack Russel to stand on a pole and be Quiet)
I need to make another as I have lost mine

they work great on drums as suggested by Mr Swedien
his is of a different breed
hi-hat baffle

[John Brook]

on this post. I'm wondering if the limiting factor might be the Marantz? I've had excellent luck with the same mike combo you are using. However, the mikes have a terrific high end, which is why people think they are scratchy. They just pick up what's there.