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27th September 2007
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
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Thread Starter |  Alice 828
Anyone know these old British mixers, could these be used as a decent front end for a DAW? Matti |
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27th September 2007
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Keep thinking of selling but get the feeling they go for a lot less than they should sonically speaking.. Designed by Ted Fletcher I believe. | |
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27th September 2007
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
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Good, like this? Has it direct outs and how much gain available? Thanks Matti |
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27th September 2007
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I don't think it does have direct outs to be honest. Mine looks similar but a bit larger. It has a limiter on the output and 12 channels (so maybe a 1282 or something) I will check later today re gain etc. Been a while! David | |
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27th September 2007
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
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Yep, please tell me! Matti |
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27th September 2007
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Just found my pics so made a quick webpage It is a 2008 but is still 8 channels. A few pics here Alice Stancoil Desk Has direct outs.. looks like approx 80db of gain  |
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27th September 2007
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Thanks! Do I see right it needs a separate power supply for phantom? The 828 seems to be an older and simpler version but 8 trafo inputs of decent quality... Matti |
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27th September 2007
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These are £25 at thomann.de for 2 channels  | |
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27th September 2007
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ps: one like mine went for like £30 on ebay (collection only!) CRAZY! |
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27th September 2007
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
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I´m looking at a similiar grazy deal! Matti |
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27th September 2007
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This stuff doesn't look sexy or have a cool image, but it's top notch stuff, built in an era where quality was the main issue, not name and image  | |
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27th September 2007
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A finished ebay on auction shows the back of an 828. Looks like it has direct out per channel like mine. Mine has XLR for mic and line and main outs, but probably very similar.  |
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27th September 2007
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Once the seller answers to my questions I´ll take it, I´m pretty sure! Cheers Matti |
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27th September 2007
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found this recording done on an 828. http://www.acousticrecord.co.uk/asse...philmozart.mp3 |
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27th September 2007
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Yes, they have some nice music on their site. Tim & Nath New Project - Work In Progress also done with828 If the 828 has the same gain as yours -which it probably has- my ribbon mic hobby may start. Besides I have tube mics, so I don´t need phantom on all channels anyways! Heh! Matti P.S. Thanks for your help! |
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28th September 2007
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Well, I bought it. In a week or so I´ll see what I get, but Guy from Acousticrecord answered my post and kindly told me some more about these litle mixers. It seems I did a deal of the year for me. My 55th. birthday is nearing, maybe that´s why for once... Matti |
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28th September 2007
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nice! Tell us how it works out. Off to test mine out again  |
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30th September 2007
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Not so nice as the seller is backing from the deal...?! Matti |
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30th September 2007
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That sucks...
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30th September 2007
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I guess he/she noticed this conversation and wants to raise the price against the rules. Never mind, move on Matti P.S. beer is good somitimes... |
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30th September 2007
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30th September 2007
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Once it's in hand, that's another story -- I'll talk up a storm.
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1st October 2007
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IMO, don't go too nuts with offering more bread. It's just fueling the fire. I wonder why your deal went in this direction? It doesn't make sense. Keep us posted. | |
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1st October 2007
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Well, I feel insulted but went on... took the beers and payed bills i didn´t remember of Matti |
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1st October 2007
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hey, if it's still up in a week, give them another shout. You never know -- it could end up being yours after all. |
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20th July 2009
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thread revival! i just picked up an Alice Stancoil 2008-828 as part of a trade. i need to change the funky AC connector for an IEC so that i can turn it on. she looks and feels great, in excellent condition. can anyone help me to get ahold of any literature for her, such as schematics, or anything at all? i can't wait to fire her up and do some old school 8 track funk recording, maybe even live to 2 track on my recently acquired and rebuilt Studer B62. yummy...
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21st July 2009
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I bought mine in the late 1970s with BBC spec. PPMs and later upgraded to the low-noise board. Very well made and an excellent desk - but noisy by today's standards. When I went digital in 1983 it became the weakest part of the chain and the mixer noise was where the noise was coming from - I sold it in the late '80s and bought a Mackie, which was much quieter. AT the Time, Alice Stancoil was Ted Fletcher and John Andrews.
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21st July 2009
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But it did not like running 8 condenser mics. In the end I snipped the phantom bus and powered 4 from the desk and the other 4 via external supplies. | |
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21st July 2009
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
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I have a Flecther ( Alice at the time ) preamp wich also seems to be consertive with the phantom amperage if I understand - some mics need juice. I think Schoeps and DP have plugin xlr testers for suitability with their mics. Matti |
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