Concerts becoming like LOUD bad mastered C.D.

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Originally Posted by Cut It Live

I didn't happen to see the HBO special or hear anything about it. It takes a lot of work to get those shows to air. I have a lot of respect for anyone involved in it. You make a great point. Communication is key. I always try to get a hold of the FOH or monitor tech before we arrive. Most are very helpul with stage plots, layouts, notes and cues. Especially when a band sends the roadies to do the sound check and the play Free Bird or a bad rendition of a Van Halen song. I have quite a few friends that are FOH, monitor and systems guys and have a great respect for them. What I don't have time for and I'm sure you will agree is incompetence and bad attitudes.
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At the end of the day if it wasn't fun, it wasn't really worth it.

I hear you loud and clear and concur.

Communication is everything and we as remotesters must do everything in our power to connect and communicate with FOH & MON engineers et al even if they think we're a bunch of knuckleheads.

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Originally Posted by musikwerks

This is an interesting thought.

People have long said that music production started going south when Pro Tools arrived, digital, plug ins etc, etc.

Now Digidesign has entered the live sound arena and you can run all your favourite plugs live in concert..... coincidence?

Nope. Not a coicidence. It's not a 'Pro Tools sound' thing. It's a gain structure thing. Well, that and the fact that Pro Tools democratized the whole thing and now we have people touching faders and producing records that would never be allowed in the building before. THAT'S why it went south. But I digress. :-)

I've got PT HD, often mix ITB, and I also drive a Digi Venue for live stuff. If you crush the mix bus on either one, well, you asked for it. You now sound like that Ricky Martin song. Treat the mix bus with respect, well, you WON'T sound like that Ricky Martin song. Gain structure on the Venue rig was interesting, first off because I had been on PT for years, and grocked that. But for live, I was coming off a Paragon console, and it actaually states in the Paragon manual that it likes to see RED on the meters. So I acted accordingly :-) And it rocked. Then, along comes the new Digi Venue console in my life, and I treated it like the Paragon. Oops. Ricky Martin all over again. Just like my early ITB PT mixes before I sussed that out. Uh, get the gain you need to drive the PA out of the matrix, not the mix buss.

So give everyone a chance to come to terms with the whole new 'digital thingy mabobber that just cleaned the brake dust off my wheels and loaded the truck with proper pack and got me a Grammy aint needin no gain structure Bob Nichols Roger Clearmountain SSL Neve Berhinger quad core u47 emulation if you use this you'll have a hit with absolutely no ****ing talent auto tune plug-in'.

Gawd, I'm an asshole :-)