Here's your chance to make this a better forum!

[Plush]

I'm liking and enjoying the forum as it is now.

In general I find that it offers high quality advice and is less rude than the rest of GS.

Hats off to Steve for moderating a great place to hang.

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by phil.

I also would like to see more gig reports!!
For me it's always very useful to see you guys in action and learn about the techniques you use in specific recording situations. When a good gig report is coupled with pictures and maybe an audio snippet of the final recording, I feel they make a lot of sense!!

Thank you Steve for constantly trying to make this forum a better place than it already is! You deserve a lot of credit for that, no doubt!! thumbsup

Best from Japan!

Phil.

Sounds great Phil, but please help the poster by adding a comment or question or something to help keep the thread available for other to view. ...Just my 2 cents.

Thank you for the continuious positive words about the forum and me.

Originally Posted by pkautzsch

There is a big problem with gig reports:
So much great info in there that I normally don't have questions

So keep them coming please

You may not have questions, but IMHO, a few comments would help the cause and affect.

Originally Posted by matyas

Agreed. I enjoy gig reports as well, but usually the poster provides so much cool info that I have nothing to ask (or someone else beats me to it.)

Ah yes, less information will yield more comments and such

Originally Posted by Petimar

This may not be the forum subcategory for this request and if not, I apologize in advance.

I'd like to see a forum subcategory just for acoustic recording. The remote forum is where I see this most, but a different subcategory just for this would be great. Thanks!

There isn't enough movement for additional subcategories.
Jules and I discussed this awhile back.
At this point we do not feel it will be a plus, but thanks. In theory it's an awesome idea.
When we do go "SUBCAT" I want to go full throttle. Break it all up -- Some of the TAGs could become SUBCATs.

Originally Posted by Plush

I'm liking and enjoying the forum as it is now.

In general I find that it offers high quality advice and is less rude than the rest of GS.

Hats off to Steve for moderating a great place to hang.

Thanks a bunch Plush.

Kudos to everyone that has made this the kind of forum everyone enjoys!

[Remoteness]

John,

Very intersting concept for sure.

Now, how do we make it streamline?

Originally Posted by jabney

You know how when you walk into a room, you can get a pretty good idea of the room sound by clapping your hands.

Something that could make this forum more useful would be a sticky topic where we could post short (a few seconds) audio samples of various venues.

To avoid copyright issues, I figure it could be applause or words from the sound check (e.g. "Check one two" or "Marsupial"). (A standardized 'cricket' (the little metal clicker) might be better, but then how to get a cricket to all interested parties?)

One issue that would generate some debate is which sample location(s) would give the most information. This would have to be via a microphone that's already being used.

Maybe some sort of simple code might be helpful to avoid too much 'apples vs. oranges.' For example:

Location = F, S, A or O (FOH mix position, Stage, Audience Microphone [i.e. aimed facing audience], or Other [with explanation]). Stage would be considered to be center downstage (closest to audience) with the mic' aimed toward the performer unless otherwise noted.

Pattern of Mic = C, H, S, A, M, O (Cardioid, Hypercardioid, Shotgun, Ambient Stereo Mic's, Mono Ambient Mic', or Omni)

Microphone Effects = W or D (Wet or Dry)

Audience = E, F (Empty, Full) (and P with + or - to indicate partial crowds?)

Recording Type = M, B, or A (Multitrack, Board-tape, or Audience Mic').

So if I use a Crown SaSS-P right in front of the mix position with my own preamps going directly to HD24 channnels 23 and 24 to record the line check, the code would be: FADEM (or FADFM if the setup is running late :-).

I'm sure the idea can be tweaked, so if anybody else thinks it would be useful, please chime in.

best,

john

[phil.]

I like this idea!! This forum comprises a huge international community and it would be great to make use of that as much as we can.

Maybe something like a "Venues around the world" threat, were we can write a little bit about our experiences in various rooms, acoustic properties, set-ups that have worked well, problems that have been encountered, best bars in close proximity etc....

If everybody interested writes a little report, it could become a very useful chapter in this ever evolving book!

Best,

Phil.

Originally Posted by jabney

You know how when you walk into a room, you can get a pretty good idea of the room sound by clapping your hands.

Something that could make this forum more useful would be a sticky topic where we could post short (a few seconds) audio samples of various venues.

To avoid copyright issues, I figure it could be applause or words from the sound check (e.g. "Check one two" or "Marsupial"). (A standardized 'cricket' (the little metal clicker) might be better, but then how to get a cricket to all interested parties?)

One issue that would generate some debate is which sample location(s) would give the most information. This would have to be via a microphone that's already being used.

Maybe some sort of simple code might be helpful to avoid too much 'apples vs. oranges.' For example:

Location = F, S, A or O (FOH mix position, Stage, Audience Microphone [i.e. aimed facing audience], or Other [with explanation]). Stage would be considered to be center downstage (closest to audience) with the mic' aimed toward the performer unless otherwise noted.

Pattern of Mic = C, H, S, A, M, O (Cardioid, Hypercardioid, Shotgun, Ambient Stereo Mic's, Mono Ambient Mic', or Omni)

Microphone Effects = W or D (Wet or Dry)

Audience = E, F (Empty, Full) (and P with + or - to indicate partial crowds?)

Recording Type = M, B, or A (Multitrack, Board-tape, or Audience Mic').

So if I use a Crown SaSS-P right in front of the mix position with my own preamps going directly to HD24 channnels 23 and 24 to record the line check, the code would be: FADEM (or FADFM if the setup is running late :-).

I'm sure the idea can be tweaked, so if anybody else thinks it would be useful, please chime in.

best,

john

[XLR]

I like this forum as it is - very much.

It took a little time until I discovered it on the server, there are others more "sparkling" on the first view, but since I know it, i like it most.
A LOT of good ideas of a lot of wise people.
And if I have a serious question, I know where to look or to ask :-)

IMO the metaphor of the "high signal to noise ratio" says it all.

Seriously, I think the forum is an oasis in a desert of internet chatter. The signal to noise is so high here that it is always going to be "slow moving".

I don't need more noise or "loudness" around, no faster-turning things, and if I did, there are enough other places around.
GS is IMO the best place in the internet, and the Remote Forum something like a home (or a truck... or a quiet corner to put my rig on... a well built listening room...)
(Now it's said... )

There's a lot of work that goes into putting together a detailed gig report with photos and such.
It hardly makes it worth while if only a few respond.
I'm projecting here, but It makes you feel like you're wasting bandwidth.

I like it, but most of the time I have nothing to add that could bring foreward!
And may be that some of us, may be especially of the classical guys, are more on the silent side.
But:

You know how when you walk into a room, you can get a pretty good idea of the room sound by clapping your hands.

I guess this is working here too :-)

Thanks for Your work!
thumbsup

The 2 cents of a half-lurker.

[jazzbutcher]

Steve,

I really enjoy this forum a great deal. It is the one that I always go to first. I enjoy a few other forums elsewhere (including within GS), but this forum seems to have a great S/N ratio compared to MANY other forums and while the rate of new posts here may not be high, the QUALITY of postings here is extreme, from my point of view. I don't feel like I have to sort through so-so advice here or wonder if some of the posters know what they're doing, etc.. Far from it!!!

I do a lot of traditional music (blues/jazz/bluegrass) recording and only occasional classical or rock work....but even though classical and rock is not my favorite thing, I really enjoy reading about how people approach some of these other sessions. I have a small rig that I have to cart around in a car or van, so, a 48 or 64 channel recording session out of a large truck is a very different beast from what I normally do, but I really enjoy reading about those shows that you and some of the other heavy-duty mobile outfits record. It is *always* instructive. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is: THE GIG REPORTS ARE VERY VALUABLE! They are perhaps my favorite thing to read. Maybe *I* need to be better about sending positive re-inforcement and leaving more comments and questions on these gig reports...as I really really appreciate these posts. It is always great fun to see what kind of situations other folks are in the middle of and how they are handling different challenges.

I know you and other folks put a lot of work into some of these gig reports, but they are really really informative and I always learn something new from each of them. All those gigs you've posted from the Blue Note or those jazz shows with DJ Logic, etc....Ben's posts from the Sydney Opera House, etc...those posts are awesome and I love reading them. As I said, perhaps you need more feedback and comments on those things. I can certainly imagine that it is dissapointing to put a lot of time/energy into a big post and then get only a few comments. I also hope that as I get better organized and can manage to take some photos of my own sessions, I can contribute some gig reports too. Most of the time I feel like I am running around with my hair on fire, so taking pictures takes a backseat!!

Anyhow, bottom line: This forum is very valuable to me and I'm sure you could find a few ways to tweak it, but I am very happy with the content that is here now. As moderator, you should be sure and let all the forum denizens know what we can do to help make the forum better too...


-dave

[mrsteaks]

Steve,

If I hang anywhere on GS, it's right here, and not just because I do mobile/classical recording gigs. The QUALITY of advice, the QUALITY of the posters, and the QUALITY of the expertise is why I'm here. I wish I could tell you just exactly how much I've learned in the short time I've been coming here, and that's from everyone - everyone.

I might suggest a name change, but, no, it's fine the way it is, and I see your play on words!

I love the gig reports, and I'd like to cite the Kimber posts and your posts as some of the best. I agree with the comments that there are few replies to those threads, because they are just so damn good and full of information.

Pictures tell a thousand words - as in "Best of Flying Mics". You just don't see much of that kind of information elsewhere on GS, and I dare say, in few other places on the web.

Minor tweaking is all I could suggest, but I can't even suggest what those tweaks could or should be.

Strong work, Steve - and I thank you, and everyone else here.

[Remoteness]

...All I can say is, WOW!

I set my heart and soul into this forum and I truly appreciate the positive words from you and everyone else that posted a comment here.

I’m only as good as the folks I’m surrounded by.

Thank you all very much from the bottom of my heart!

[CommunityMart]

I'll tell you what I like about this forum.

The pictures and the stories. End of story.

[springer]

I would like to express my opinion that this remain dedicated to ACOUSTIC music. I find that I am becoming more and more agitated anytime I hear or see and amplifier in the room.
[soapbox mode]
I wish people would listen more. Instead, we put a mic on a piano in a TRIO situation! Basic musicianship tells me that if you cannot hear the piano then you need to be quieter and listen more carefully. And it is a true joy when I find a group (outside the classical arena) that understands this - it is auditory heaven and my job to capture it in it's pristine glory.
[soapbox mode off]

[Nick_1234]

I'm not sure if this would be the forum to post this, but I think it may be most relevant.

I would be interested in a forum on Live Sound Reinforcement. I have plenty of questions that would pertain more to this area, as opposed to studio scenarios.

Nonetheless, this is still a very helpful tool.

Thanks for the insight!!

Respect.

-Nick.

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by CommunityMart

I'll tell you what I like about this forum.

The pictures and the stories. End of story.

I can dig it. I like the pictures and stories too.

Do you have any to tell?

We're all ears.

Originally Posted by springer

I would like to express my opinion that this remain dedicated to ACOUSTIC music. I find that I am becoming more and more agitated anytime I hear or see and amplifier in the room.
[soapbox mode]
I wish people would listen more. Instead, we put a mic on a piano in a TRIO situation! Basic musicianship tells me that if you cannot hear the piano then you need to be quieter and listen more carefully. And it is a true joy when I find a group (outside the classical arena) that understands this - it is auditory heaven and my job to capture it in it's pristine glory.
[soapbox mode off]

Remote Possibilities is a hybrid forum featuring Acoustic and Electric Music along with Location Production which includes, but is not limited to Live performance, Mobile & Location recording & Broadcasting.

Originally Posted by Nick_1234

I'm not sure if this would be the forum to post this, but I think it may be most relevant.

I would be interested in a forum on Live Sound Reinforcement. I have plenty of questions that would pertain more to this area, as opposed to studio scenarios.

Nonetheless, this is still a very helpful tool.

Thanks for the insight!!

Respect.

-Nick.

Nick, this is the best place to post about Live Sound... Click on the "Live Sound" tag to see some of the threads we already have.

[ISedlacek]

Originally Posted by tnjazz

Please change the name to Remote Possibilities & Location Recording

(you already mention "acoustic music" in the subheader anyway; having it in the main title makes the forum seem like it's limited to acoustic recording and that has caused confusion on more than one occasion in the past)

I don´t think it is very good idea, since then all the contibutions about recording acoustic music as such (in the studio) would not belong here. I would think rather opposite: to bring the name of the forum in harmony with its content, it should be rather named:

Acoustic Music&Remote Possibilities & Location Recording

It would have much more sense and logic ... Otherwise all the contributions about recordings which are not remote or location would be simply out of place. And I am also afraid that many people attending other forums simply don´t come to see this forum because they don´t know it deals also with acoustic music as such (not clearly indicated in the name). If not interested in "remote" or "location", they could easily miss it ... (which normally happens)

[Cut It Live]

How about a forum of gig pictures?

[Remoteness]

Originally Posted by Cut It Live

How about a forum of gig pictures?

Well, you can always start a thread...

There is a "show & Tell" thread.

[Remoteness]

I believe I have the perfect solution.
Once I discuss this with Jules I will let you folks know.

Originally Posted by ISedlacek

I don´t think it is very good idea, since then all the contibutions about recording acoustic music as such (in the studio) would not belong here. I would think rather opposite: to bring the name of the forum in harmony with its content, it should be rather named:

Acoustic Music&Remote Possibilities & Location Recording

It would have much more sense and logic ... Otherwise all the contributions about recordings which are not remote or location would be simply out of place. And I am also afraid that many people attending other forums simply don´t come to see this forum because they don´t know it deals also with acoustic music as such (not clearly indicated in the name). If not interested in "remote" or "location", they could easily miss it ... (which normally happens)

[AudioHipster]

Hi to make this a better forum it would be great to make it easy to post??? Maybe i watched too many Cheese & Chong back in the 70"s or maybe I am ban form posting ... ay anywho if someone could like point at the right door I would like to post techniques on creating a most lovely snare sound and want to know how to post the Mp3.... Also if you could allow just a couple words with a P and/or C start then maybe i could post the name of me new LP... Don't you know.... sure to ban in most country's.

[Remoteness]

Man, I'm completely lost with your post...

Easy to post; right door; banned from posting?
All you have to do is click on reply or New Thread.
Click on the file management link to upload your files.
It's not rocket science my man!

...And, what about "me new LP" with those Ps & Cs?

Does any of this have anything to do with this forum?

Originally Posted by AudioHipster

Hi to make this a better forum it would be great to make it easy to post??? Maybe i watched too many Cheese & Chong back in the 70"s or maybe I am ban form posting ... ay anywho if someone could like point at the right door I would like to post techniques on creating a most lovely snare sound and want to know how to post the Mp3.... Also if you could allow just a couple words with a P and/or C start then maybe i could post the name of me new LP... Don't you know.... sure to ban in most country's.

[ebulb]

its charlie sheen!!!

[Remoteness]

Duh? Winning!

Originally Posted by ebulb

its charlie sheen!!!

[Soundhunter]

Hi Steve,

More gig reports, more photos and more information on the amazing range of trucks and vans out there.

Keep up the good work, this is definitely the best forum on the WWW.

Steve
Canbury Sound

[Remoteness]

Hey Steve,

Thanks for chiming in...

I myself have started plenty of gig reports and stuff on my truck build-out projects, but they don't seem to have a lot of traction...

I guess folks read my detailed descriptions and information, but don't have much to ask, so they move on.

I have a ton of new pictures to show of Elroy and Cosmo, but feel reluctant to post them.

Case in point, I uploaded a bunch of new pictures of the new dual XFMR belly bin for Cosmo and no one had any questions or thoughts about it...

It's cool, because I post to build the Remote Possibilities forum archives.
We have an awesome book of solid knowledge in this forum.

Down the line and in time, with my continued work on keeping those popular tags current, folks do indeed find that good and valuable information; it just doesn't always happen on the spot.

And, what about those gig reports?
We all do plenty of gigs; I wish we had a lot more interest on that front!

I had a sneaking "suspicion" that this was the "best" audio forum on the Web.
I'm happy to see more and more folks confirming my beliefs.

FYI, I get a fair amount of PMs and emails about that perception, just not as many publicly announced, so I really appreciate your words.

IMHO, we do have a seriously awesome group of professionals here!
Even the newbies have a professional air to themselves.
I guess we are only as good as the company we keep.
I dig this company very much.

Originally Posted by Soundhunter

Hi Steve,

More gig reports, more photos and more information on the amazing range of trucks and vans out there.

Keep up the good work, this is definitely the best forum on the WWW.

Steve
Canbury Sound

[ebulb]

when you say gig reports do you just mean a rundown of what happened ? like a blog type thing ? Thats a cool idea, Its especially good to hear when something out of the ordinary happens or any pitfalls people strike as it helps others as well.. Ive enjoyed reading other posts like that..

[Remoteness]

Click on the 'gig report' popular tag and checkout a few of the threads, so you can see exactly what I believe gig reports are.

That said, you're on point and on the right track.

[ebulb]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

Duh? Winning!

YouTube - Songify This - Winning - a Song by Charlie Sheen

[pkautzsch]

Originally Posted by Remoteness

I myself have started plenty of gig reports and stuff on my truck build-out projects, but they don't seem to have a lot of traction...

I guess folks read my detailed descriptions and information, but don't have much to ask, so they move on.

I don't have much to ask, but definitely don't move on before reading EVERYTHING, and I believe others feel the same way.
That may be because your posts are so full of great info, and probably because you put way more thought into optimizing your setups than anyone else. You describe very detailed how and why you did things nobody else would have thought of doing at all, or at least doing that way. thumbsup
You're a genius, and we're the pupils.

[JEGG]

Originally Posted by pkautzsch

I don't have much to ask, but definitely don't move on before reading EVERYTHING, and I believe others feel the same way.
That may be because your posts are so full of great info, and probably because you put way more thought into optimizing your setups than anyone else.

I agree with this and the rest of the post not quoted. I always read your (Remoteness) stuff whenever I encounter it. It is always seasoned and well thought out information.

[imaginaryday]

this is by far my favorite forum within gs. happy birthday!