Yorkville? Anyone know anything about this company

[AnAverageJoe]

I've seen them,but don't sound bad but IMO don't sound that great... are they high end PA systems or no?

[bishopthomas]

What cabinets did you hear? Define "high end." Are you just asking for general opinions or are you looking for rider acceptability or what? I used to mix on the TX4's and I thought they sounded great. The TX series are their "high end" line, but it goes all the way down to the Pulse series. You get what you pay for.

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by bishopthomas

What cabinets did you hear? Define "high end." Are you just asking for general opinions or are you looking for rider acceptability or what? I used to mix on the TX4's and I thought they sounded great. The TX series are their "high end" line, but it goes all the way down to the Pulse series. You get what you pay for.

when I say High End I mean are they great quality and the system I heard was flown inside of a church and where painted white... I was just wanted to know general opinions from people who have heard there systems.

[nathanvacha]

i'll repeat it...

which yorkville's?

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by nathanvacha

i'll repeat it...

which yorkville's?

The PA systems and I said I didn't know because they were flown high above me

[True North]

Yorkville makes some decent gear for pretty much every level (High End to Low End). The question that is being asked above is a good one because their product range is enormous and runs the gamot in terms of quality.

That being said, while Yorkville makes some higher end loudspeakers they are most noted for their mid to low range products. They used to make all of their products in Canada and the Long family has been manufacturing for over 40 years (started with Traynor) so it is usually of decent quality.

If I could draw an analogy for you. Peavey is the to US market as Yorkville is to the Canadian market

Don't know if that helps at all, cheers

[Gravity]

Yorkville is a Canadian company basesd out of Pickering Ontario. They've been in business for years (the 70's i think, can anyone confirm?) They have been making PA gear primarily, but in the past 10 years or so have branched out a bit. They also encompass the Traynor line of MI amplifiers and cabinets. Their PA stuff used to be branded AudioPro (most of which sucked, hard).

They've been making speaker cabinets for years and years, mostly under the Elite name, any 'in the trenches' PA guy from Ontario (if not canada) has probably done a good chunk of mixing in clubs and bars outfitted with Elite cabinets. They were some of the first ones I ever used for sure. They were no EAWs but they sounded good for the cost, and you literally could not kill them. The three most popular cabs that I used were these little 1x10 w horn, 1x15 w/ horn (EX401 i think) and the EX2000, 2x15/horn. They had some single 18" subs that kicked pretty hard too. I frequently used the a pair of EX2000s and a quad of the 18" subs for smaller outdoor gigs, and they were plenty loud enough to do a football feild (and get noise complaints!)

The new stuff is really good though. A bar i used to play and mix at used a quad of the TX4s with a pair of the TX9s using a Midas Venice and Yorkville power amps and the system really kicked. It was sometimes a LITTLE heavy in the 2-5khz range, but a bit of system EQ would take care of that. My experience was that they alwasy sounded great.

I'm also a HUGE fan of thier small studio monitors. I'm actually sitting in front of a pair of YSM-2ps right now that I've rented to do wome work away from my main rig. They sound great and very detailed in the midrange. My first pair of studio monitors was the first generation passive YSM-1 and they were great. A lot of guys up here use them in place of NS-10s because you get all of the transfer with none of the ear fatigue. The YSM-2p and YSM-1p are great speakers for the cash, and they really kick in the low end considering thier size. The powered sub that mates with the YSM-1ps kicks REALLY hard. Really hits you in the chest.

The NX series stuff, is pretty good, I've used them to play a gig and I ran my bass direct into the 1x12 powered speakers and they had enough low bass to cover a wedding reception without farting out. I was impressed.

I've actually had a chance to visit the factory in pickering (everything yorkville branded is made in canada) and I've got to tell you its a slick, high-tech operation they've got going on there. I've got much respect for them and thier products.

Add to that a 2 year unlimited 'even if you break it' warranty on all thier products, and really, you can't beat them for value.

I don't work for them, but I am a fan of most of thier products (I'll admit the 'Pulse' series stuff sucks pretty hard)

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by True North

Yorkville makes some decent gear for pretty much every level (High End to Low End). The question that is being asked above is a good one because their product range is enormous and runs the gamot in terms of quality.

That being said, while Yorkville makes some higher end loudspeakers they are most noted for their mid to low range products. They used to make all of their products in Canada and the Long family has been manufacturing for over 40 years (started with Traynor) so it is usually of decent quality.

If I could draw an analogy for you. Peavey is the to US market as Yorkville is to the Canadian market

Don't know if that helps at all, cheers

It Helps Thanks, and I said I didn't know which Yorkville Speakers they were since they were flown at at church high above me

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by Gravity

Yorkville is a Canadian company basesd out of Pickering Ontario. They've been in business for years (the 70's i think, can anyone confirm?) They have been making PA gear primarily, but in the past 10 years or so have branched out a bit. They also encompass the Traynor line of MI amplifiers and cabinets. Their PA stuff used to be branded AudioPro (most of which sucked, hard).

They've been making speaker cabinets for years and years, mostly under the Elite name, any 'in the trenches' PA guy from Ontario (if not canada) has probably done a good chunk of mixing in clubs and bars outfitted with Elite cabinets. They were some of the first ones I ever used for sure. They were no EAWs but they sounded good for the cost, and you literally could not kill them. The three most popular cabs that I used were these little 1x10 w horn, 1x15 w/ horn (EX401 i think) and the EX2000, 2x15/horn. They had some single 18" subs that kicked pretty hard too. I frequently used the a pair of EX2000s and a quad of the 18" subs for smaller outdoor gigs, and they were plenty loud enough to do a football feild (and get noise complaints!)

The new stuff is really good though. A bar i used to play and mix at used a quad of the TX4s with a pair of the TX9s using a Midas Venice and Yorkville power amps and the system really kicked. It was sometimes a LITTLE heavy in the 2-5khz range, but a bit of system EQ would take care of that. My experience was that they alwasy sounded great.

I'm also a HUGE fan of thier small studio monitors. I'm actually sitting in front of a pair of YSM-2ps right now that I've rented to do wome work away from my main rig. They sound great and very detailed in the midrange. My first pair of studio monitors was the first generation passive YSM-1 and they were great. A lot of guys up here use them in place of NS-10s because you get all of the transfer with none of the ear fatigue. The YSM-2p and YSM-1p are great speakers for the cash, and they really kick in the low end considering thier size. The powered sub that mates with the YSM-1ps kicks REALLY hard. Really hits you in the chest.

The NX series stuff, is pretty good, I've used them to play a gig and I ran my bass direct into the 1x12 powered speakers and they had enough low bass to cover a wedding reception without farting out. I was impressed.

I've actually had a chance to visit the factory in pickering (everything yorkville branded is made in canada) and I've got to tell you its a slick, high-tech operation they've got going on there. I've got much respect for them and thier products.

Add to that a 2 year unlimited 'even if you break it' warranty on all thier products, and really, you can't beat them for value.

I don't work for them, but I am a fan of most of thier products (I'll admit the 'Pulse' series stuff sucks pretty hard)

WOW Really Helps thanks, how would you compare there low end gear to companies Like JBL and EV, and so on?

[Gravity]

Originally Posted by AnAverageJoe

WOW Really Helps thanks, how would you compare there low end gear to companies Like JBL and EV, and so on?

Well the high end stuff by them, I'd EASILY put on the level of the pro level JBL stuff, and quite frankly, their powered speakers squarely kick the a** of the JBL Eon series, (I do like the JBL 1x18 powered subs though) Certainly I'd put the mid level Elite stuff on the level with anything EV has done lately. Yorkville's AP series power amps are freaking solid for the money and good clean power.

Really, with the exception of the Pulse and Performance series, I can't say bad about them. I'd put them a step above Peavy, and maybe on the level with JBL and EV, and certainly in the high end TX series they'd give guys like EAW and Meyer a run for thier money in the VALUE department (Not sheer sound quality mind you, just value for sound)

Plus, really I can't say enough about buying a product who will, even if you drop it out the back of your truck running down the highway, replace it for you within the first two years.

[Capt. Kirk]

Hey guys,

I just bought some of the low end floor monitors to go in a rental pa I use some and those guys stand up really good to be cheapy's. I'm impressed with the solid bass out of a 12" speaker and the highs do great. The best thing is they don't weigh a ton like my JBLs...... old ones..

Kirk

[santibanks]

So as I understand it right, the ysm2p are very good bang for the bucks in their price range? How do they compete with other systems (like for example a krk rp5, tascam stuff, m-audio etc.)?

Im thinking of them for using as surround speakers (with a yorkville subwoofer). I don't have that much to spend (still student) but don't want any home theater crap. I already own a set of RP5's and I know that I can expand them with a sub and 3 extra units, but I also liked the idea of having a different brand with a different sound to also stereo check on those...

[Axiomhead]

I have four Y153's that were retired from a rental house. They sound fantastic. Definately better than most of the low end JBL stuff. I use them every weekend for a summer series of jazz/bluegrass concerts. I get many complements on the sound quality.

The only Yorkville amps I like are the AP2020 and the AP4040... not the cleanest, but they certainly throw some usable power without completely destroying the signal.

I dislike much of the Elite line, with the exception of some of the powered stuff... i do really like their powered 18" subs!

I've never used/heard the Yorkville monitors, but a buddy of mine loves them.

[valleysound]

I just got 6 UCS1B subs. They are great for the price/performance/value! They were design by a guy named Tom Danley who makes some of the best engineered horn loaded PA speakers. Do a search for his name.
Yorkville's top end stuff is the TX line. I've used the TX8/TX9 combo and was definitely impressed.

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by Gravity

Well the high end stuff by them, I'd EASILY put on the level of the pro level JBL stuff, and quite frankly, their powered speakers squarely kick the a** of the JBL Eon series, (I do like the JBL 1x18 powered subs though) Certainly I'd put the mid level Elite stuff on the level with anything EV has done lately. Yorkville's AP series power amps are freaking solid for the money and good clean power.

Really, with the exception of the Pulse and Performance series, I can't say bad about them. I'd put them a step above Peavy, and maybe on the level with JBL and EV, and certainly in the high end TX series they'd give guys like EAW and Meyer a run for thier money in the VALUE department (Not sheer sound quality mind you, just value for sound)

Plus, really I can't say enough about buying a product who will, even if you drop it out the back of your truck running down the highway, replace it for you within the first two years.

I thought that the Pulse stuff was Yorkville's worst stuff

[AnAverageJoe]

Originally Posted by valleysound

I just got 6 UCS1B subs. They are great for the price/performance/value! They were design by a guy named Tom Danley who makes some of the best engineered horn loaded PA speakers. Do a search for his name.
Yorkville's top end stuff is the TX line. I've used the TX8/TX9 combo and was definitely impressed.

I just visted your site and I noticed that you also used Community Speakers to, Are those good, because I've seen them, but have not heard them

[bishopthomas]

Community is just like Yorkville in that they have cheap stuff on up to very good sounding (aka expensive) cabinets. You are going to get what you pay for no matter what. My advice to you would be to go listen to some systems. Hopefully you know some sound companies in your area that wouldn't mind if you came out and listened to their PA. If you're serious about spending some money on a set of speakers then call the manufacturers sales division. Most would love to arrange a demo for you.

[valleysound]

Originally Posted by AnAverageJoe

I just visted your site and I noticed that you also used Community Speakers to, Are those good, because I've seen them, but have not heard them

I've got the mid/low pro stuff of both manufacturers. At $700 to $1000 per box they are middle range with the next price jump in quality is like $2000+ per box, more like $3000+ for EAW, Meyer, etc. That being said I like what my system sounds like, I've used it enough to tune it well for each gig and really in the end, it is more the driver than the car, within reason of course. Right now, my market supports me with the gear I have. If I went to get to the next level, it is not only speakers, but amps, eq, processing, console, etc. that I would have to upgrade. And then I have to get the pay check boost to support all that.
And to keep this thread along the recording lines, I use my Metric Halo 2882+DSP as a system processor, running delay, limit and eq for each bandwidth of my 3-way active PA and recording of course!.
Community SLS stuff is the high end, with the SLS960 or 920 as the "standards" Easily compares to the EAW KF650's.

P.S. Thanks for the web hit!

[tombak]

Originally Posted by bishopthomas

What cabinets did you hear? Define "high end." Are you just asking for general opinions or are you looking for rider acceptability or what? I used to mix on the TX4's and I thought they sounded great. The TX series are their "high end" line, but it goes all the way down to the Pulse series. You get what you pay for.

The TX series sound really good, their bottom end isn't the best but do the job well. I feel Sonic cabinets with B&W speakers sound better than the TX subs. I do prefer the TX series over most EAW but my fave is Meyer Sound.

Paired up with some Crown MA series and you'll have a great sounding system.

They are great value for the money.

[AnAverageJoe]

Hey I went to a fair well a water park not to long ago and they had a small PA system set up and they were using Yorkville's Pulse series Speakers and boy did they sound like Crap!!!!

[Johnny Plant]

Originally Posted by Gravity

Yorkville is a Canadian company basesd out of Pickering Ontario. They've been in business for years (the 70's i think, can anyone confirm?) They have been making PA gear primarily, but in the past 10 years or so have branched out a bit. They also encompass the Traynor line of MI amplifiers and cabinets. Their PA stuff used to be branded AudioPro (most of which sucked, hard).

They've been making speaker cabinets for years and years, mostly under the Elite name, any 'in the trenches' PA guy from Ontario (if not canada) has probably done a good chunk of mixing in clubs and bars outfitted with Elite cabinets. They were some of the first ones I ever used for sure. They were no EAWs but they sounded good for the cost, and you literally could not kill them. The three most popular cabs that I used were these little 1x10 w horn, 1x15 w/ horn (EX401 i think) and the EX2000, 2x15/horn. They had some single 18" subs that kicked pretty hard too. I frequently used the a pair of EX2000s and a quad of the 18" subs for smaller outdoor gigs, and they were plenty loud enough to do a football feild (and get noise complaints!)

The new stuff is really good though. A bar i used to play and mix at used a quad of the TX4s with a pair of the TX9s using a Midas Venice and Yorkville power amps and the system really kicked. It was sometimes a LITTLE heavy in the 2-5khz range, but a bit of system EQ would take care of that. My experience was that they alwasy sounded great.

I'm also a HUGE fan of thier small studio monitors. I'm actually sitting in front of a pair of YSM-2ps right now that I've rented to do wome work away from my main rig. They sound great and very detailed in the midrange. My first pair of studio monitors was the first generation passive YSM-1 and they were great. A lot of guys up here use them in place of NS-10s because you get all of the transfer with none of the ear fatigue. The YSM-2p and YSM-1p are great speakers for the cash, and they really kick in the low end considering thier size. The powered sub that mates with the YSM-1ps kicks REALLY hard. Really hits you in the chest.

The NX series stuff, is pretty good, I've used them to play a gig and I ran my bass direct into the 1x12 powered speakers and they had enough low bass to cover a wedding reception without farting out. I was impressed.

I've actually had a chance to visit the factory in pickering (everything yorkville branded is made in canada) and I've got to tell you its a slick, high-tech operation they've got going on there. I've got much respect for them and thier products.

Add to that a 2 year unlimited 'even if you break it' warranty on all thier products, and really, you can't beat them for value.

I don't work for them, but I am a fan of most of thier products (I'll admit the 'Pulse' series stuff sucks pretty hard)

The above information is inaccurate. I had the misfortune of buying a pair of YSM-1ps last year, under the impression, because that is what they'd like you to think, that they were made in Canada, well, they are most definitely NOT. It took a while for the Yorkville people to admit this to me, after many exchanges and even threats of legal action, the word China had to be pried from their lips.

Here is my story: as I said, I bought a pair after all the good things I had read, 3 minutes after having set them up, they started to spit fiber glass acoustic insulation right in my face.

This kept on happening, each time I used them I had to be ready to avoid the spurts of fiberglass.

Sadly, that was to be the least of my concerns, I hadnt noticed it at first, but when I started to play around with one of my Trtiton's basses, the foam ring around the woofers and apparently the woofers themselves too, started to buzz like a swarm of angry bees.

It happened every time, specially around 60 to 120 hz maybe, I don't remember the exact frequencies (I did several tests with sine waves when I noticed this).

It was so bad that the buzzing would completetly drown out the sound of the bass notes, in other words, the speakers were absolutely useless.

Later on I found out, after searching (what felt like) every forum on the internet, that they started having serious QC issues since they had move manufactoring of these speakers to China, and that I wasn't the only one having those problems. I heard of people returning their speakers because of the buzzing, only to have the new set buzz too.

Yorkville won't admit to any of this, I almost had to cry on the phone before they admitted anything about China. And they did so reluctantly, at first they only said "they are being manufactured somewhere else". They never admitted to any QC issues, they were basically dismissive, and maybe even rude. And I felt they were QUITE dishonest. In the end, since I live in Central America, to return them I had to pay for shipping twice... Spent about $400 on shipping, down the drain.

Yorkville offered no help whatsoever.

So if you want chinese made speakers that may or may not work properly go right ahead. I wish they were still made in Canada. They aren't. I really wanted them to work.

In the end I got a pair of rp8s, which aren't as accurate or as nice as the Yorkvilles, and the mids are indeed scooped, but at least there are no hidden surprises and I can depend on them.

These days I use the rp8s just for checking kick/bass, and the Tascam VX-L5s for everything else.

[Johnny Plant]

Here's a link to one of the forum's I found when I was going through my ordeal (and it was quite an ordeal because through all this I had a small album to record and no monitors). Quite revealing.

Yorkville YSM1p monitor buzzing noise?? - Home Recording dot com BBS

[Johnny Plant]

Yes, I'm still angry at them. They treated me like a piece of crap when all I wanted was a good pair of monitors.

I am a bit worried about China and all these QC issues. I was thinking of ordering some cad 179 mics, but now that they are made in China too, I just don't know. They are cheaper and shipping costs much lower than for monitors, so I may still risk it, but man... At some point there will be a backlash if it keeps on going like this.

[Stevil]

a while back I had a yorkville bassmaster head powering a big ampeg cabinet @ my place. nice tone, clean sound, Sovtek overdrive was not all that amazing but sounded pretty decent once it warmed up. good bang for the buck gear. never had any trouble with it. product did take a while to arrive when we ordered it.

[lucey]

The Yorkville powered stage monitors (all except the subs) use AD and DA internally just like JBL PRX series. Bad news IMO.

If you're looking for powered monitors, go with QSC HPR series. They sound fantastic, are very reliable, and use no AD DA - just a nice analog limiter. Prices are very fair. We have the HPR 153i here for barn parties and they are terrific, tons of power, very deep bass, great tone.

[tombak]

Originally Posted by AnAverageJoe

Hey I went to a fair well a water park not to long ago and they had a small PA system set up and they were using Yorkville's Pulse series Speakers and boy did they sound like Crap!!!!

The Pulse series are crap, the Elite is tolerable. The TX series is listenable.

Another alternative is Renkus Heinz. Great units and one can find very good prices second hand. They are used in a lot of Broadway and Vegas theaters. I would put them up there with Meyer quality.