Midas Venice

[Hexfix93]

For techno and industrial. I need a mixer that can handle distortions well, have great highs, and great lows, and good mids... need a good eq...

is this the board for me?

i am on a budget, i am limited on space.. what is the best mixer for a home setup?

[Clueless]

The Venice has completely changed my perspective on what to expect from a small-format mixer. If you haven't played or heard one, you owe it to yourself to do so. It is nothing like the el-cheapo 4-bus mixers you may be familiar with.

[Hexfix93]

i've used a mix wizard and older vlz.

to be honest, the vlz sound better for the type of music i am doing, industrial and techno dance. i am not doing rock n roll, and i think the mixwizards may be better for that than the wackies.

i want something that makes synths sound good. but want to get out of the cheap stuff, but dont have room for the big expensive stuff..

[Clueless]

The Venice is not "big expensive" stuff. It''s "compact, you-get-what-you-pay-for" stuff. Now, the XL4 is big, expensive stuff, but that's not what I suggested ;-)

[indie]

The Venice is incredible for the price. I don't do your type of music, but the sonics will hold up no matter what the style.
Micah

[henrybob]

Same question here , except , the music is mostly rap/r'nb & mix of classical & experimental/electronic (style : Björk , Faultline,...) , etc...

2nd hand i can buy a A&H GS3000 (32 - no meter bridge) for 3500 euro .
Soundtracs Topaz 824 (no meter bridge) for 1250 euro .

Is the Midas Venice in another league ?

-Marc

[Clueless]

I think you can find a Venice 320 first or second-hand for 3500 Euro. Not as many knobs as the GL3000, but "it's not the number of knobs, but how they sound that matters."

Disclaimer: I live in the US, and thus don't know what EU prices are for this stuff. I just converted what I paid (a shade less than $4000 USD) for a new 320 in December.

[henrybob]

Clueless , it's a GS3000 - 'S' from studio , where the Venice is in fact a live mixer , not ?

But if the Venice sounds def better , then ...

[Clueless]

They say that all Midas stuff is for live use, but I've got it in my studio. Midas has become my passion since I've discovered it (I have 3 XL42s and am taking delivery of a Verona 400, hopefully this month).

[henrybob]

Ok , the Midas eq is very good/top , but on what level are the pré's ?

[indie]

The Venice has a full frequency response...so the lows of the kick and bass are full and the top is open...for the money.
The preamps are great (for the money) sounds cool at times overdriven.
Micah

[Jay Kahrs]

The Venice is a live board. No tape returns or anything like that, plus the master section is a little weak compared to what you'd find in a studio desk. If it'll work for you they're awesome little desks, they totally kick butt in a live sound environment. Oh, and while it probably won't matter too much keep in mind that the aux sends are pre EQ.

[henrybob]

....sounding better than a GS3000 ???
Which has the benefit being a studio desk

[Coldsnow]

Great board, much better sounding than the Mackie or Allen Heath for studio use sound quality wise, and preferable to upper end Soundcraft as well in my opinion.

[bee]

According to midas the aux sends can be internally configured to be either pre or post eq. If you have a patchbay and don't need more than 16 channels to record at once....you can use the first sixteen channels to track the the rest for monitoring on the 320 model. Also if you get a coleman mp3h to handle speaker and 2-track selecting your rocking.

[Jay Kahrs]

The Midas also has direct outs on each channel which are switchable to pre fader by either installing or cutting a jumper.

[richiecc]

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
Oh, and while it probably won't matter too much keep in mind that the aux sends are pre EQ.

Reading this thread I was getting quite excited about possibly checking one out. But pre fader sends is simply no use to me. What a pity and a bit thoughtless on the design in my opinion.

[Clueless]

Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
Oh, and while it probably won't matter too much keep in mind that the aux sends are pre EQ.

Um, there are 2 aux sends that are pre-EQ (called Monitor), 2 that are post-EQ (called FX), and 2 that are switchable (called Aux). The aux sends are, by default, post-EQ.

The operator's manual contains block diagrams, if you are interested. I don't know where Jay got the idea that all the sends are pre-EQ.

[el cochino]

I have the 32 channel Venice and like it alot - big improvement to the Mackie d8b I had before. Has anybody tried this board with the external PSU? I'm curious if it noticeable improves the headroom.

[ajcamlet]

I talked to Midas about the difference betweent the internal PSU vs. the External PSU , and Midas says they are EXACTLY the same thing. No Difference.

[el cochino]

Originally posted by ajcamlet
I talked to Midas about the difference betweent the internal PSU vs. the External PSU , and Midas says they are EXACTLY the same thing. No Difference.

Thanks for the information.

[Jay Kahrs]

I thought all the sends were pre EQ...sorry...I was too busy mixing to solo up my aux sends and twist knobs just to hear what would happen.

[jeronimo]

Hum, check with remoteness (I guess that's his alias), 'cause he uses Venices ALL the time and I remember him or somebody else swearing by the external power supply!

[David Herbert]

I have a Midas Venice 1604. It is far better than any other small format mixer I have heard. The eqs and pres are awesome, the routing is extensive for a small board, and IMO you get MORE than what you paid for. I use it for tracking and summing. David

[b-magical]

How's the Venice summing compared to those dedicated summing boxes like the D2B? I'm looking to get some type of analog summing situation very soon. The Venice looks like a nice option considering that you can do alot more with this board then a summing box but does it stack up sonicly? I'd love to hear your opinions.

Thanks,
Brian

[henrybob]

Me Too -

Marc

[David Herbert]

Haven't heard the D2B, can't compare. I will say I have enjoyed summing through the Venice. It gives you extra returns via the FX and aux returns, a total of 24. David

[Jay Kahrs]

Originally posted by b-magical
How's the Venice summing compared to those dedicated summing boxes like the D2B? I'm looking to get some type of analog summing situation very soon. The Venice looks like a nice option considering that you can do alot more with this board then a summing box but does it stack up sonicly? I'd love to hear your opinions.

One's a console. The other is a summing box. Pick your tool and do something with it.

While we're on the subject, should I get a 4-door car or a motorcycle?

[henrybob]

Wriot wriot ...
Which one sums the nicest ?

That's what us meant !

But in your place i should get a scooter !


But then again i'm not you , ain't i ?

[Stratfreak]

Yeah, you definitely should check into the Midas Venice. I have the 32 channel Venice and the Soundcraft Ghost 32 channel. I just did a comparison and practically crapped in my pants at how easy it is to dial in the proper eqing with the Midas. In my opinion it blows the Soundcraft away.

Finally an eq that works in a musical way. It's not a recording board and lacks features of a recording board but damn...it friggin sounds goooood!!!

You won't regret the sound of it. You might regret that it doesn't have a flip switch (or return channels) , but you may figure out a work around.

If you're gonna mostly just use it for mixdown/summing, then your gonna love that sweet baby. That Midas Venice sure makes me seem like I know what I'm doing. LOL