Smashing Pumpkins live on Letterman

[GravityRobert]

Originally Posted by octatonic

Apparently Billy is living with Courtney Love these days - has his own wing in her mansion.

Is it too far of a stretch to say everyone and everything she touches turns to shit?

Actually, from what I heard he actually wrote some material for her/Hole.

[Chrisc_o]

Originally Posted by octatonic

Apparently Billy is living with Courtney Love these days - has his own wing in her mansion.

Is it too far of a stretch to say everyone and everything she touches turns to shit?

The Yoko of the 90's\00's?

[84K]

Originally Posted by True North

As a huge Townshend fan I found this quote interesting. How so ?

He has written many great songs and done a few stellar covers. He will be appreciated more in 30 years. I am a HUGE Who fan. Not quite as big a Pumpkins fan, but he is a little off the wall with his style like Townshend was and he has a lot of great songs like Pete.

[AlexLakis]

Originally Posted by 84K

He has written many great songs and done a few stellar covers. He will be appreciated more in 30 years. I am a HUGE Who fan. Not quite as big a Pumpkins fan, but he is a little off the wall with his style like Townshend was and he has a lot of great songs like Pete.

And a very under-rated guitarist as well.

[84K]

Originally Posted by AlexLakis

And a very under-rated guitarist as well.

true that

[octatonic]

Originally Posted by GravityRobert

Actually, from what I heard he actually wrote some material for her/Hole.

A lot of people have been rumoured to have written for her- Cobain, Corgan & Trent Reznor.
I don't believe that myself- I think that is just the music worlds attitue against women who 'rock'.
Joan Jett experienced a lot of prejudice in this way as well.

As far as Corgan goes- I've seen him in interviews before and he seems like a complete tool.
Extremely precious, paranoid and full of himself.
Ask Sharon Osbourne.
I enjoy some of his music but I really think he needs to be put in a situation where he doesn't have what he wants and has to do a lot of achieve it.
Some people work better in opposition- to something, anything really.
This mid-life comfort he is experiencing isn't doing his work any good whatsoever.

So says I anyway...

[Yutaka]

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5uF5amAzBuQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed>

[GravityRobert]

Originally Posted by octatonic

I enjoy some of his music but I really think he needs to be put in a situation where he doesn't have what he wants and has to do a lot of achieve it.
Some people work better in opposition- to something, anything really.
This mid-life comfort he is experiencing isn't doing his work any good whatsoever.

So says I anyway...

Actually that's something that's been running through my head for a while now (not necc. regarding Corgan but generally speaking) and I agree. Hard times bring good records!

[octatonic]

Originally Posted by GravityRobert

Actually that's something that's been running through my head for a while now (not necc. regarding Corgan but generally speaking) and I agree. Hard times bring good records!

The video Yutaka posted above was interesting to watch.
The whole mid section with just bass drums and Billy saying nothing over and over was a bit ridiculous, really.

I do undertand why people don't want to work with him- but you have to give the man his accomplishments.
Here is a guy who really can't sing and who plays guitar like a mother****er trying to make records when people who can play well weren't really appreciated.
That whole early 90's 'loser-hack' mentality just bummed me out.
It was obviously a reaction against the hair metal widdly-widdlers who were in many ways worse- but I do think there is a middle path between being able to play and having to don spandex.

Er... now I am just rambling.

[Plush]

I thought the reunited group sounded good on television.

I'm not really sure why posters here (recording people) are judging the group from a tv performance, however.

The singing has always been weird to me--but I suppose I'm out of the demographic.

Here in Chicago I find nothing special at all about the group--formerly or now.